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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Don't forget to renounce your US citizenship. It costs just $2300 + income tax on everything you have

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why you wait until the wars start and it's free.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Aaaand your USD is worthless

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are a few countries in the world where you can hold US dual citizenship. Canada is one if them. You can become a Canadian citizen without renouncing your US citizenship

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But isn't it true that you still have to pay some sort of annual tax to the USA even if you no longer live there?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Americans have to submit tax forms to the IRS every year, even if they are no longer living there or earning income there.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No. It is not true.

I lived outside the US for many years and never even filed my taxes because my income was less than $100,000 per year.

If you earn a bit more than that, or you have income from capital gains, then may have to report it and pay taxes, yes.

See IRS rules for "Foreign Income Exclusion"

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could you explain this? I don't know the context.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

A post (that now appears to be deleted) of a American that moved to Singapore and renounced their citizenship after obtaining Singaporean citizenship. Apparently the OP there was charged $2300 to do it and the post was a digital receipt for that.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm just spitballing here, but why would you pay taxes on your way out? I mean torch the passport, make an afternoon of it by all means. But pay a fee and tax? Just leave right?

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US is one of the only countries in the world where citizens are taxed even when they don't live there (and haven't for many years). If you don't pay taxes on your way out but you have to visit for any reason, cops can arrest you when you re-enter.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They also have extradition treaties in most countries, so you'd have to avoid about half of the world.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have taken all the whimsy and drama of leaving your country of birth. Fucking paper work and taxes!?!? I'm talking long beach cuts, walking defiantly off and never looking back.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

How do you cross borders without your passport?

Just say goodbye and never see your family and friends again? Good luck.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago

Burning a passport doesn't renounce your citizenship. You still have to pay taxes. If not, they'll either extridite you or arrest you when you visit the US.

You can get out of it, but you have to pay expatriation fees, including an exit tax on your assets

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because as long as you're US citizen, they will persecute you for every penny of income tax even if you work abroad.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its not every penny. Its excess of $100,000 per year last time I checked. See rules for "Foreign Income Exclusion"

But thats just income. Capital gains limits are much lower.