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[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

how tf do you even meaningfully mod 1000 subs? 2 is plenty

[–] SYLOH@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Their entire identity revolved around reddit. They devoted their entire life to the site. With that level of commitment you find the time.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Even if you spent 20 hours a day on the site, every day, there's no way to have meaningful interactions with 1000 communities.

Clearly what they're committed to is collecting subreddit. Collecting them like baseball cards: Looking at them, smiling, and then stuffing them in a box, never to be looked at again.

[–] Karl_L@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I even can't imagine doing that without being compensated. It just seems so far past the extreme.

[–] fsk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How do you know that there's only one person working the account? When you're a reddit moderator, it's anonymous (same on Wikipedia). For all we know, all the power mods are working at a PR firm somewhere. Spreading misinformation could be their full-time job. Controlling the flow of information on Reddit and Wikipedia could be worth more than Reddit's actual profit.

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For all we know, all the power mods are working at a PR firm somewhere

are you guessing or stating that as a fact, and if the latter, do you have any sources for that

[–] fsk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/facebook-azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook-azerbaijan-troll-farm

they are caught, and you have to get out of the way to make it tick, as in, you can't just call someone at facebook and say "hey i have elections coming up, can you censor all of opposition and handle me list of dissenters uwu" and expect them to comply. you have to pay ~~spineless propagandists for hire~~ PR agency to do that job for you

wikipedia edit history is public record, so it's more of an issue of combing through it. being not for profit and much more transparent than fb helps with that https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-russia-ukraine-propaganda-suspicious-edits-1849673060

[–] fsk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually, the government did just call up Twitter and tell them to censor things. That's the whole point of the Matt Taibbi Twitter Files stories. But you also have other non-government groups policing the Internet, calling up Twitter/Facebook/Google/etc and demanding censorship.

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Twitter Files story

ah yes, a story that ultimately comes from elon musk and elon musk only. that's obviously true, because when musk has to choose between his own agenda and healthy public discourse, you can trust him to never stir shit in a way he thinks will favour him. we all know that he never proposed hyperloop to quash californian high speed rail, for example. he also obviously is completely neutral and has no agenda. you see, he unbanned all these russian propagandists, nazis and other shitbags just because he is such a free speech absolutist and entirely not because he wanted to> For example, if you control the mainstream media and big tech, you can make an issue seem like a huge problem by overhyping it everywhere.

For example, if you control the mainstream media and big tech, you can make an issue seem like a huge problem by overhyping it everywhere.

your words, not mine. musk wen full on "waaah waah they won't let me overblow this manufactured non-story. they are obviously evil". that's because it turns out that conspiracy theorists spend more time on site, pumping up engagement numbers and bringing more ad revenue. this happened to facebook before

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yeah this has never crossed my mind before. who would be customer of such company? if you have state level resources, it may be easier to straight out buy the entire place and gradually smother it down, like russian govt did with livejournal picking one by one opposition that congregated there. or you can bring it under your own jurisdiction and spread disinfo as mandated by law

[–] fsk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are conspiracy theories on the Internet that Google and Facebook were created to centralize control of the Internet in a few large corporations, who then would be able to control what information people see. You also have to think bigger than government. Who has more influence? The President? Or the CEO of Blackrock and other large hedge funds, who control all the voting shares in pretty much every public corporation?

For example, if you control the mainstream media and big tech, you can make an issue seem like a huge problem by overhyping it everywhere. You can cover up real problems by never mentioning them at all. The CEO of Google is NOT elected. A couple of hedge fund managers get to pick the CEO of Google.

[–] NotYourSocialWorker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Conspiracy theory it is. What has happened to the internet is much more easily explained by capitalism. This is what capitalism does.

I bet that you don't need to follow that conspiracy theory very far before you find someone spouting the old classical antisemitic bullshit.

[–] fsk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

On every conspiracy theory forum, there's at least one person posting antisemitic stuff. It's a standard trick to discredit them. I.e., person A posts a true conspiracy theory X. Person B posts the same conspiracy theory and also something antisemtic. Does that automatically mean X is wrong?

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

tell me with a straight face that dude who thought that shitty hypermonetized second life knockoff with vr googles is future of internet plans that far, and that accurately