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Leaked images reveal Lenovo’s Steam Deck competitor with a hint of the Switch (www.theverge.com)
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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully they dont make the same mistake ASUS did. The fanciest hardware in the world won't help if the software doesn't work out of the box.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Steam Deck got so much right, straight out of the gate. The suspend-resume is nothing short of amazing. The UI is 100% muscle, 0% fat.

IMO, starting with Windows as a base is an automatic setback. There's a strong chance that it'll interrupt your game to ask you if you want to set Edge to be your default browser or some stupid shit.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

IMO, starting with Windows as a base is an automatic setback. There's a strong chance that it'll interrupt your game to ask you if you want to set Edge to be your default browser or some stupid shit.

Ugh I can imagine that thing rebooting for an update the second you pause a game to go do something

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get this place is very pro-Linux, but come on. 30+ years of using Windows here, it's never done anything like that.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It was a bit tongue in cheek but since Win10, there's more "nervous laughter" in the room than there was before.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You've never had Windows insist on installing updates at an inconvenient time? Come on! You're obviously not using Windows that much.

Also, it's not just Windows that does this. Every HP thing (the PC, their printers, accessories, etc) seems to require a bazillion background services and one gigantic background app that just loves to pop up and interrupt everything you're doing at the worst times. Multiply that by any number of other devices with proprietary management daemons running in the background, managing their own updates (because even to this day Windows doesn't have a universal package manager that keeps all software up to date).

This is how it's going to go:

  1. You bring your shiny new Lenovo portable game console with you to the airport so you can game while waiting to board and during the flight.
  2. You wake it from sleep (because nobody is actually going to fully power the thing down and wait for the lengthy Windows boot/login process every time they want to use it).
  3. Since it's been asleep for a while it'll immediately check for updates. If there's no Internet you're golden! The moment you connect it though...
  4. Updates will be downloaded in the background while you're gaming. Not a big deal on it's own but as soon as they're done they will be auto-installed and Windows will ask you to reboot... Because it can't actually apply updates without rebooting 95% of the time (depends on what was updated).
  5. You'll notice that your device isn't running quite as well as it used to or something isn't working quite right (e.g. wifi keeps disconnecting because one of the updates applied new firmware but the driver update won't apply until you reboot) and everyone knows that a quick fix for that is to reboot.
  6. You sit there in the airport waiting for a ton of windows updates to apply on boot. Then when it's done it might ask you to reboot again because while those updates were applying it applied more (because many updates have to be applied in a certain order).
  7. There goes 10-20% of your battery life and probably 15 minutes of your life you'll never get back.

It's the Windows way!

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Ypu missed 'the update breaks your machine, and you lose a day reinstalling everything'

(because I bet a gaming machine doesn't use something like snapshots to roll back before the damage).

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Wow, you ok there? Like I said, no, that's never happened to me. I've had the PC self-update during off-peak hours i.e. when I was sleeping, but otherwise it's usually an update initiated by me.

The fact you took this time to initiate this flight of fantasy on something that's never happened to me on any Windows portable means your hate of an OS has taken on some unhealthy levels. Take a chill pill.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows continuously harasses me to upgrade to windows 11 with full screen nags (having to find the little "go away" button, why there's not a single "no fuck off forever" button isn't shown is beyond me)

I can definitely understand the frustration at windows given how it chooses to act sometimes

[–] i_cant_sports@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Disable TPM in your BIOS. Windows 11 will suddenly be “unsupported” and won’t pester you to upgrade.