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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

"Russian interference" is not just a few hackers breaking into emails—it’s a well-documented, multi-decade strategy of disinformation designed to weaken democratic institutions. The Kremlin has spent years building an extensive network of fake social media accounts, bot farms, and propaganda outlets to spread divisive narratives.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, the FBI, and cybersecurity experts have all confirmed that Russia’s influence campaigns exploit social and political fractures, using platforms like Facebook and Twitter to push misleading or outright false information. Reports from organizations like the RAND Corporation and Stanford Internet Observatory show how these tactics are designed to erode trust in democracy itself, making people more susceptible to authoritarian and extremist messaging.

This isn’t just speculation—it’s the exact playbook used in Russia’s interference in the 2016 and 2020 elections, as confirmed by U.S. intelligence agencies and the Mueller Report. The goal has always been to amplify distrust, push conspiracy theories, and create a populace that can no longer distinguish fact from fiction.

And now? We’re seeing the results. A country where misinformation spreads faster than the truth, where people take social media posts at face value instead of questioning their sources, and where a populist leader can ride that wave of disinformation straight into power.

Putin doesn’t need to fire a single shot—he’s watching Americans tear themselves apart over lies his operatives helped plant. And the worst part? Many people still refuse to acknowledge it's happening.

Putin has long stated that Russia is at war with the West—not through traditional military means, but through information warfare. Intelligence agencies, cybersecurity experts, and independent researchers have repeatedly warned that we are being targeted. Yet, many in the West refused to take it seriously.

Now, we’re losing the war—not on the battlefield, but in the minds of our own citizens, as propaganda and disinformation tear at the very fabric of democracy.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We need to be able to identify their tactics when we see them.

I've personally noticed that there's a certain kind of user who will always reply no matter what. I think it's part of their job to never concede so it looks like they've won when people on the other side move on with their lives.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

I've noticed the same thing. Some users seem less interested in genuine discussion and more focused on exhausting the conversation until the other person gives up. It’s not about exchanging ideas—it's about persistence, repetition, and making it seem like they've "won" just because they got the last word.

I've encountered accounts that mostly follow this pattern:

  • They present themselves as neutral or centrist but consistently echo Kremlin talking points—things like "NATO crossed Russia’s red line" or "You’re ignoring the materialist perspective."
  • They seem AI-assisted—the phrasing is polished, but they cycle through the same arguments without really engaging with what’s been said.
  • They never concede a single point, no matter how well-supported the counterargument is. Instead, they shift the topic, reframe the discussion, or insist that any counterpoint is “Western propaganda.”
  • They rely heavily on logical fallacies—particularly whataboutism (“But what about NATO’s history?”), false equivalence (“Russia sees NATO as a threat, so both sides are at fault”), and shifting the goalposts (when one argument is dismantled, they subtly pivot to another without acknowledging the first was refuted).

I only started wondering if some of these accounts might be Russian bots last week, but your comment is making me think my suspicion wasn’t just alarmist. Now I’m genuinely curious—have others been running into the same thing?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Great to see liberals have fully embraced Qanon style conspiracy theory: just spewing out paragraphs of unsourced claims about a grand conspiracy.

And now? We’re seeing the results. A country where misinformation spreads faster than the truth

You heard it here folk! How could Americans possibly believe misinformation over truth! There's no president for it! It must be a foreign scheme! Fluoride in the water! Precious bodily fluids!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It’s always interesting to see how discussions about disinformation attract the very tactics they describe. A predictable pattern emerges in these responses—one designed not to engage in good faith but to mock, dismiss, and deflect.

Here’s how it typically plays out:

  • Mockery Instead of Argument

    • Rather than addressing specific points, they resort to sarcasm and ridicule.
    • Compare serious, well-documented concerns to absurd conspiracy theories—"Fluoride in the water! Precious bodily fluids!"—so that the entire discussion is framed as ridiculous.
  • The “Conspiracy Theory” Dismissal

    • Even when the argument is based on intelligence reports, independent research institutions, and government investigations, they lump it together with baseless internet conspiracies like QAnon.
    • This is not a counterargument—it’s a lazy rhetorical trick to make the entire topic seem unserious without actually refuting anything.
  • Demand Sources, Then Ignore Them

    • If a comment doesn’t include direct links, they pretend it’s “unsourced,” even if it references well-known institutions like RAND, Stanford, or U.S. intelligence agencies.
    • Ironically, they don’t provide sources themselves—because their goal isn’t fact-finding, but discrediting.
  • Dismiss the Premise Without Engagement

    • They don’t acknowledge the existence of Russian disinformation efforts, despite overwhelming evidence. Instead, they treat the claim itself as laughable.
    • This is classic gaslighting—pretending a well-documented reality doesn’t exist to make people second-guess whether it’s even worth discussing.
  • Turn the Conversation Into Noise

    • By injecting sarcasm and misrepresentation, they shift the focus away from the substance of the discussion.
    • The goal is to waste people’s time, exhaust them, and make the entire conversation seem like a pointless back-and-forth.

This is one of the most effective disinformation tactics—not to argue a case, but to flood the zone with nonsense until people disengage. And unfortunately, it works. When bad-faith actors derail discussions with sarcasm and mockery, it discourages others from engaging at all.

So, the next time someone tries to dismiss a fact-based argument by ridiculing it instead of addressing it, recognize the pattern. It’s not a debate—it’s an attempt to control the conversation by making real information seem like a joke.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

But your argument isn't "fact based", any more than the claims of Qanoners. You've made a bunch of unverified assertions.