Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
!feminism@beehaw.org
!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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This doesn't help if I don't want kids now but know I want them later
That isn't a good situation to be in but completely understandable. I don't envy you. The treadrope of finding people to trust and always having to guard and protect yourself is not fun.
Just what the planet needs. More humans. We're doing SUCH a great job right now.
Hey, don't attack what people want. This is a biological urge and hard to decide against. If you don't want children, that is cool for you. If others do, that is also fine for them.
The world is messed up and getting worse, obviously, but may won't share our cynicism and I probably don't want to drag people down with me. It's hard to build enthusiasm after.
If what people want is dumb, I'm going to call it dumb. The planet is alternately on fire or under water. It's time to make many drastic changes, but billionaires are still flying rockets, flying private jets across the world for shopping or soccer, and everyone else is driving SUVs and turning up the A/C until they have to put a sweater on. :)
If you're not depressed by the current situation (nevermind the prospects for the future), you're not paying attention.
I am bothered about those things, but choose not to let fear and anger run my life. Those emotions without action are pointless. Just suffering with no gain, and what's the point in dwelling in negative emotion?
The world is not a good place, are you helping make it a better place calling people dumb?
Some people are only happy when everyone else is unhappy.
I've decided to at least keep it net neutral. If I have 2 kids then my net contribution to population growth is 0.
If you really want to stop ballooning population growth, help educate people who have less access to educational resources, and help give them access to healthcare; birth control included.
If your "compromise" is to do your part to keep the population at an unsustainable number, I only hope you don't get to watch them suffer in the coming collapse.
I feel like you completely missed the last half of my comment.
Education and access to birth control will help drastically to prevent and avoid both overpopulation and/or the problems that come with it.
The issue isn't you our me having a couple kids, it's the people having 5+ kids.
Too many people isnt the problem. Its what the people are doing. And the ones who are doing the most harms are very, very few in number.
And those people whose impact is disproportionate... What have we done to roll that back?
Precisely nothing.
Are you talking guilliotines?
I'm talking about taxing billionaires and billionaire toys until it's infeasible to be a billionaire anymore.
The guillotines come later, when we continue doing nothing until it's too late and the starving, drowning, burning hoardes are looking for someone to blame.