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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China invests so much into it

China is building two coal plants per week. And their "green" programs are just facades to take Western money.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, taking Western money by Chinese companies buying Chinese renewable energy equipment and paying Chinese installers. Taking western money by building out renewable energy faster than the rest of the world combined, in their own country using their own companies with their own finances

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm talking about stuff like this

https://youtu.be/JEN2LQoN-hE

https://youtu.be/aU_S97Ae1eg

China added more coal power in 2023 than the rest of the world combined.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And more renewable energy. And more high speed rail. And has over 90% of the worlds BEV buses.

There’s some truth to Chinas claim that they’re still a developing country and they need to massively build out to bring more of their population up to developed standards.

There’s also some truth to the claim that central planning without regard to supply and demand means they seem to be building out more power than they can use. Hopefully that translates into coal power plants going unused

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

And more renewable energy. And more high speed rail. And has over 90% of the worlds BEV buses.

You sound like a wumoa. These are literally CPP propaganda talking points. Especially the high-speed rail line.

What does "high speed rail" and "BEV buses" have to do with the discussion about renewable energy? Nothing. It's just thrown in to say "China good, West bad".

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know what that is so can’t be offended, but don’t be blinded by the lies rolling agenda that any country is bad: even the worst regimes sometimes do good things

What does "high speed rail" and "BEV buses" have to do with the discussion about renewable energy?

Everything. Renewable energy is not just renewable electricity generation but applying it to more energy users. A Deisel bus is a dirty polluter that can’t use renewable energy, but a battery electric bus is a way to use renewable energy for transportation.

One of the fundamental requirements of more renewable energy is “electrify everything”. Electricity becomes the distribution medium letting us use renewable energy for more things

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t know what that is so can’t be offended

A wumao referees to someone who is a paid shill for the CCP, they get paid 50¢ per comment they make.

Renewable energy is not just renewable electricity generation but applying it to more energy users. A Deisel bus is a dirty polluter that can’t use renewable energy, but a battery electric bus is a way to use renewable energy for transportation.

Sure, that's a valid point. But it becomes entirely invalidated when you consider that most of that electrification comes from coal plants they're building at breakneck pace. They're averaging two entire coal power plants per week. That's over 100 coal fired power plants per year. They are building more than ALL other countries combined.

Then there's the consideration that your argument only applies to the very few places they can actually do that, like in major urban cities. Everywhere else in the country they still have to rely on ICE transport out of practicality.

And this also ignores that their renewable initiatives (outside of EVs) are giant shams.

https://www.dw.com/en/how-a-chinese-firm-ran-a-billion-euro-carbon-credit-scam/a-71010148

https://freedium.cfd/https://medium.com/@lanekwriter/the-grass-is-greener-in-china-f835368ae8c

Edit: autocorrect

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Everywhere else in the country they still have to rely on ICE transport out of practicality.

Just like the people using this as reason US can’t electrify transportation, the real answer is this is irrelevant.

  • US has 80% of its population in urban, so whatever the people in rural areas use for transportation is just a small piece. They’re fine.
  • While I have no idea whether China has a similar population pattern, I can look at a picture of their high speed rail map and see it cover most of the country. I can also feel confident that a vast majority of their economic activity is in cities. Whatever people in rural areas do for transportation is just a small piece. They’re fine

their renewable initiatives (outside of EVs) are giant shams.

Feel free to look up what country most of the world’s solar panels are produced in. Feel free to look up what country has the most high speed rail miles. Feel free to look up what country created the world’s biggest hydroelectric project. Feel free to look up which countries are leveling off carbon emissions ahead of commitments

It’s a shit country with no human rights, but their leadership does seem to understand the need for renewable energy and reduced carbon, much more than my country’s leadership does

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Feel free to look up what country most of the world’s solar panels are produced in.

Irrelevant. The fact that they are manufactured there does not equate to them being used there.

Feel free to look up what country has the most high speed rail miles.

Also irrelevant. Most of Europe uses electrified rail.

Feel free to look up what country created the world’s biggest hydroelectric project.

Not a good argument. The ecological damage caused by monolithic damn projects is massive. While they are "renewable" once brought online, they aren't a good overall option. Smaller damns that do not disrupt the natural flow of a body of water is the modern preferred method.

Feel free to look up which countries are leveling off carbon emissions ahead of commitments

It sure isn't China. That was literally the topic of one of the links I shared. They've been lying about their carbon credits. And they've been building TWO COAL POWER PLANTS PER WEEK FOR YEARS!

I've said that a few times to the point I'm getting suspicious...

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That was literally the topic of one of the links

One on faking a facade to look greener than they are and one on scamming a foreign country on that country’s carbon market. I see nothing like you claim.