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[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Milk is getting more expensive. Moral of the story: Buy a cow.

I really wish people would stop being so delusional about the average person’s technological abilities. jUsT TeLL grAn To sPin Up a mATrIx SErvEr.. stfu

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Everyone should be hosting a server" was NOT my point, sorry if I got misunderstood. My mother could in no way host an XMPP server on her own - but I could register her an account on mine.

Rather, I meant: a) if you can host it, suggest your friends and family to use your server; b) if you can't - that is still better: with multiple public servers available, there is no single point of failure, you can choose a server in whatever jurisdiction you want, or even an onion/i2p one.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry for being harsh at the end. I just see this notion too often.

But still, your option b) is not self hosted. Maybe a better word to use would be decentralized then?

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

Selfhost able. But yeah, "decentralized" would be indeed a more fitting term.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's just pedantry. 'Selfhosted' never meant that every single user has to host it themselves.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s not pedantry, it’s using the right terminology.

And yes, self hosted means hosted by yourself. It’s in the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)

The promise of self hosting is that you own your data which may be better for privacy/security if you know what you are doing. The same doesn’t apply if you have to trust a third party, even if it is a friend/family member who provides you with a service they host. They become a service provider to you.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

self hosted means hosted by yourself

A lot of selfhosters share with family. I'm not gonna make my wife spin up her own servers when she can use mine.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And what would you call your wife in this scenario? A selfhoster? Or a user of a service hosted by boonhet?

She’s not using a selfhosted service, she’s using a boonhet-hosted service. Because she has no control over the service or her data.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

That's just being overly pedantic.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

That's called 'peer-to-peer', not 'hosting'.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i rather talk to my grand parents over ham radio than giving them a smartphone

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Are you the only one who decides that? My grandparents have a bunch of children and grandchildren, if I tried to take their smartphone away the others would just call me an asshole and give them a new one.