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Why? Because the Dutch national broadcasters keep plugging it as an alternative to Whatsapp.
Aside... Two apps keep getting mentioned as alternatives, Signal and Element/Matrix, but in MHRO both are not viable as replacements.
Signal: still a US app, CIA funded, provides their encryption backbone to Whatsapp, recommended by governments & FBI. Matrix/Element: Developed in Israel, with ties to IDF, preferred by NATO (NI2CE)
IDGAF who funds it or who develops it.
Those three things are all that matters.
Signal is funded by the CIA now ? And I thought Element is in the UK?
Signal does seem to have some ties to the CIA
There seems to be a completely different Israeli company called matrix. I can't find any link between the two.
It's old and convoluted, something like a precursor to element got funding from Israel or something
Maybe OP means that the Matrix protocol is created by an Israeli company.
Naw
Other than people you don't like living in the world here with us, do you have any proof of anything actually nefarious done by signal or matrix?
Just FYI:
If you want to say "both are not", you can instead use "neither".
Yes you can, both are correct.
Neither is incorrect really
you are neither correct nor right.
you’re spreading lies lies lies FUD
Honestly, this gives me more confidence in it. The CIA is very interested in keeping its people safe, so if they're using it, its in their interest to ensure it's secure. If they do put in a backdoor, I happen to be a US citizen so I'm unlikely to be a target since the CIA is all about surveillance on outsiders (FBI is domestic). FBI and Signal rarely agree, but they agree that Signal is great, so I think that's a pretty strong endorsement.
Add to that Edward Snowden recommends it, and he's certainly an enemy of both the CIA and the FBI at this point.
If nobody used CIA funded security tools, we wouldn't have security tools
All of that's off the table now with Trump in power. It's more than likely the CIA will be deployed against domestic targets.
I think that's unlikely, but even assuming it is, if spooks use a security/privacy tool, it's probably pretty good.