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The world’s top chess federation has ruled that transgender women cannot compete in its official events for females until an assessment of gender change is made by its officials.

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[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, wait, why the hell is there a separate women's category in fucking chess in the first place? Those in charge of this decision are 100% misogynists AND transphobes. There isn't a single good reason for this.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

For the same reason why we need quotas for businesses

Having a role model is hugely important for people picking up something.

If some girl plays chess and looks at the professional players and big tournaments there are no women there. So she likely will not pursue that path professionally. If there is a women's league then there the guarantee that there will be visibility for the winners which then creates more idols for young people and over the years increases the level of play until they are equal enough.

Not to mention the chess-clubs favouring boys on their training since they have a bigger chance to make it big and shine a spotlight on that club that produced this talent. With female only tournaments it's easier to create a name for yourself if you treat both genders equal and create the same talent for both sides there are so many fewer players.

Sure sounds dumb on paper but it's actually really necessary in order to create a pathway to more professional female players

[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I have a really, really hard time believing treating both genders equal and empowering accessibility + diversity is best achieved by segration.

[-] gens@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago
[-] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sad that people can't see the good of having a safe space for women to compete in chess... WTF.

[-] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

I'm afraid to ask you about your other views.

[-] jimbolauski@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Look at how well Japonese Americans did after we segregated them in internment camps.

[-] zimy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having a role model is hugely important for people picking up something.

Maybe society should start teaching kids to just do what they want instead of waiting for some random person that shares arbitrary X-trait to "inspire and empower" them. Be your own person.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's what society says and what society does. Society in many countries already says what you propose, again and again. But it doesn't actually react favourably when people do it, especially women.

[-] CaptainBuckleroy@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm going to assume you aren't trolling.

Women traditionally have been discouraged from competitions, including chess. We are at the stage where we should be creating extra opportunities for women to be involved in these competitions. If we didn't, tradition and systemic practices would continue to discourage women.

Chess has no male category. There's co-ed, and female. This allows an extra space for women to compete against each other, feel safe, and make connections and friendships with other women in the minority. While still allowing them to compete in the coed category on a level playing field.

We will most likely continue to be at this stage for generations.

[-] driving_crooner 2 points 1 year ago

Having a women's category for chess is a way of creating a safe environment for everyone to thrive.

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