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Linux or Landfill? End of Windows 10 Leaves PC Charities with Tough Choice (www.tomshardware.com)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/linux@programming.dev

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Most things are point & click & no one uses CLI in windows, it's objectively inferior to linux

Also "start & stop a service" ? Does that sound like something an average user deals with in windows ?

Linux does need a control panel, I can admit that but let's not pretend that Linux's CLI is tough to learn. & the CLI is the most effective way of doing things in a pinch, when push comes to shove.

If someone like Pewdiepie (he's no tech-savvy guy) can use linux, thrn linux has gotten user-friendly enough, although linux can do better & more needs to be done

Ease of installation😅 now you're straight up lying, linux is by far easier to install with a liveUSB
as for hardware, that's upto the manufacturers to open up their systems

Thanks for revealing your hatred for linux (I cannot wait for you to call me a linux-cultist, eventhough I admitted that linux can do better)

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The bad cli thing is a 2000s view not a 2020s view. PowerShell is better than bash and windows terminal does everything I need both for local PowerShell stuff and remote bash stuff.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

PowerShell is better than bash

It factually and objectively is not

There's a reason why POSIX is still enduring to this day. Microsoft's penchant for writing short novels for a basic command is not what I would call "better". And that's ignoring the fact that PowerShell doesn't have a fraction of *nix shell capabilities and utilities.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it factually and objectively not?

It has standard bash capabilities and also can run standard dotnet libraries. What can bash do that PowerShell can't?

I'm skipping by the POSIX part because well...posix lost except insofar as it lives on in the two mainstream highly proprietary OSs.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It has standard bash capabilities

Well, ya. Its terminal interface, I'd expect it to have "basic" capabilities.

also can run standard dotnet libraries.

That's not exactly a selling point.

What can bash do that PowerShell can't?

Write succinct and easy to read commands. Interop with all the powerful tools in the Linux ecosystem (which is the point of a shell like bash).

posix lost except insofar as it lives on in the two mainstream highly proprietary OSs.

That's just simply not true. Three majority of core utils you find on most Linux systems are POSIX compliant or mostly compliant. IIRC all the GNU tools are POSIX.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 2 hours ago

So your factual and objective point is, let me make sure I captured this right, is:

Bash looks pretty
Bash can run executables

Cool

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Who cares about Pewdiepie, the point is how much more "user-friendly" do you want, the excuses never end. If a stupid guy like pootiepie can handle linuxmint, then people are out of excuses

Plus it's actually the apps that we'll need to focus on (& games)

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly you do. You brought him up. And brought him up again.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

As a point of argument, I could've brought up Luke from LTT as well. You're something else😅