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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Crisis Report - 104 (richardcrim.substack.com)

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[–] fake_meows@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s clear that US leadership, no matter what it says publicly, is getting ready for a Climate Apocalypse and a “New World Order”. The SPEED at which they are moving indicates they expect things to start getting BAD very soon now.

I think a lot of the narratives that have spun up about what is going on (with the changes in the world order) smack of a kind of "taken-for-granted" reality / logic. There is an overall reaction that the way things were normal in the past is the way they are always supposed to be, and any and all change is now wrong just because it defies to maintain previous expectations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism

"The real environment is altogether too big, too complex, and too fleeting for direct acquaintance" between people and their environment. Each person constructs a pseudo-environment that is a subjective, biased, and necessarily abridged mental image of the world, and to a degree, everyone's pseudo-environment is a fiction.

To me, collapse is THE most cogent explainer for what is going on now. There is an overall pattern of changes where the system seems to be seeking lower complexity and lower costs (money/energy). The facade that we will fix climate change or other global issues in the future..that is going away now.

At the same time, most people seem totally blindsided as they try to grapple with that glimpse into deeper reality...and they are seeing what is going on with a worldview where literal collapse seems to be something they can't (or won't) see. Its like a grieving process where people are in stages of denial and bargaining.

So, as an example, instead of being scared about climate, people are fretting about the stock market taking away some of their money. You can see how deeply they are clinging on to this bubble that is popping. That future never was. But what people badly want is to go back to sleep.