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What really is going on in the US right now? Is this worse than the first term? Why're legal people being kicked out? When is it time to really consider leave? (lemmy.selfhostcat.com)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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First term a lot of people considered leaving but frankly it didn't feel like this.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden and Dems pushed hard against immigrants and beefed up ICE.

[+] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world -13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A lot less than Trump. They allowed more and mostly it is about the legal ones and refugees. You don't just extend a hand and then retract it when it is convenient. The ones that actually committed crimes, other than coming into the country undocumented, can go.

Edit: I meant it was less people deported at once like this. Over the course of his term is different than all at once, and what about legal residents and those who have/are going through the process. I apologize for the confusion.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden deported over twice as many people as Trump in his first term

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yea, I have been aware. Not necessarily on either side of this equation. But I agree with the fact that it would be more advantageous to grant certain non-offending immigrants citizenship, and have several legal points of entry at the border, with enhanced security so that it is less likely for smuggling to happen (possibly with either more border patrol or an alternative structure) and more migrants are encouraged to enter with a more streamlined and fair process, one that doesn't leave them worrying about deportation, sans any criminal record or pending charges.

Edit: I am not talking about his first term. I wasn't fully against either candidate, there were good and bad with both Trump's first term and Biden's. It is the entire principle of this type of deportation that is wrong.