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Teslas are everywhere here. Considered a status symbol... Every time I mention "Buy EU" to people, family, and friends, they look at me like I'm an alien.
Yeah, I've lived in a couple of countries in Europe and my fellow countrymen are the least socially aware of all and easily 30 - 40 years behind Northern Europe and Scandinavia.
I moved back to Portugal some years ago, after 2 decades abroad, and in several things (mobility, environmental awareness, social values) it was like going back in time.
Things are especially bad in everything to do with cars, with people still having the same mindset as back in the 80s, even young people.
Letโs set the context to fellows aged between 18 and 35, since thatโs the law in Portugal for defining young people.
WTF is going on? There's so much access to information! I'm not talking about reading books, really. Why are we so behind on everything? I mean, our education isnโt that bad, aside from the overcrowded classrooms in the metropolitan areas. Our universities arenโt too shabby, and the curriculums are good... So whatโs left for us to regain some momentum? I donโt know man, I just want to fly to Australia and stay there, to be honest.
It's a mix of various behavioural and social learned habits.
Consideration for others is only direct person to person and regulated by social shame: people don't think of "the system" as being "other people", they think of it as something you take advantage of and you're a sucker (otรกrio) if you don't, so when they're not being watched by others or standing out they'll take for themselves that which is of the fuzzy "others":
And more.
Generally people will behave vastly more selfishly if they think they won't stand out but be ashmed to do so when they feel that others are judging them negatively for it (that's what I mean with "regulated by social shame")
This kind of behaviour then translates into very low activism when it comes to things which are "of everybody" such as the Environment.
As for other elements of the lack of prosperity in Portugal, I would say two related to the management culture in the country stand out:
And so on.
All these various elements are painfully visible in the behaviour of Portuguese politicians and their management of the country.
Because this stuff are learned behaviours most people that grew up here have them and they naturally feel that "this is how people are" since in their life experience "everybody does this". From my own experience, people can learn to act differently, but when pretty much everybody around them behaves like that, they're not even aware that they're acting in specific ways which are not universal plus some of these things only yield rewards when most people are doing it and being the sole person acting in a certain way just makes one stand out or even be seen as a sucker.
Yes, this is definitely the case here.
Thank you for taking the time to share your point of view. What I get from most of it is that the Portuguese aren't traveling enough and aren't trying to learn different perspectives and ways of doing things, and I tend to agree. I also know from my own social circle that money is almost always the culprit. It's just a snowball effect.
edit: And I blame the "cunha" culture on excess of bureaucracy that happens here.
Well, for me moving abroad was a massive eye opener, especially since I started by living in The Netherlands and when it comes to the way they do things the Dutch are very different even though they're generally pretty relaxed (though they might not look so since they normally only real open up to people who they know well).
I went in with all those "bad" habits and found out that, no, those were not in fact "the way people do things", they were just the way people tended to do things in my own country.
It probably helped that I moved driven by wanting to "learn different perspectives and ways of doing things" rather than for economic reasons (back in the 90s somebody with an Engineering degree would be just fine in Portugal and be under no economic pressure to emigrate). These were the days when you could be hired from abroad even as a junior software developer and the company would pay your moving and settling costs, so you didn't actually need money to move, just willpower and guts.
IMHO, everybody should live abroad for long enough to feel that you really live there (so at least a year or two), if only for the perspective and broader life experience it brings.