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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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China Just Turned Off U.S. Supplies Of Minerals Critical For Defense & Cleantech (cleantechnica.com)

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Six months ago staunch allies like Canada and Australia would have loved to help, although they couldn’t replace China overnight. But the same tariffs that led to China’s new licenses for critical minerals are hitting the former allies Trump is treating like enemies.

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[–] rivan@lemm.ee 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Encourage them to volunteer

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Every time. They're well aware of my stance on war.

To go to war, every adult must vote yes or no. The yes vote is immediately signed up for military service, no exceptions given outside of life-threatening conditions. Everyone can do something even if it's just logistics.

No votes go about their business as usual.

And of course, there will be people who for one reason or another, legitimate or not, can't leave the general areas they live in. They can be national guard and show up to work the fields every day, ensuring wartime food supplies.

It may sound harsh, but unless you're willing to get down in the shit yourself, you have no business demanding someone else do it for you.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Make all the politicians in favor actually fight in the war, I'd like to see that.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ooh, yeah this is also a good one.

Any politician that speaks in favor of going to war is given front-line duty regardless of how they vote.

Again, if you're going to demand it, you're going to DO it. That means people who use their influence to sway others are also going to do it, even if they're cowards behind a voting booth.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, Rome tried that in the Republic, mostly it just got armies murdered. Rome won in the end anyways because what it was good at was making more armies.

What you do is make the drafting of their children as enlisted front line mandatory.

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Spoiler. Boomers dgaf about their children or grandchildren. Just take a gander at the climate crisis and electing new hitler for starters.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Gen X voted for Trump in a higher proportion than boomers.