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The World Needs American Socialism (newintermag.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by henryjwallis@lemmy.ml to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

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Youssef Bouchi writes on the importance of American socialism from his perspective as an Arab immigrant in Canada:

"Grassroots movements in the U.S. already understand this [...] Our task from the outside is to support them."

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Socialism is not confined to borders. Our movement belongs to workers all over the world.

[–] henryjwallis@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

borders objectively exist. saying "it's good for people over that border to organize" is sensible for those in touch with objective material conditions

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Borders exist in law. Not in our physical space. We are going to change the laws. I find it incredibly optimistic to believe the borders will exist as they are after a socialist revolution.

[–] henryjwallis@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Borders physically exist. There are police who will arrest or even shoot at those who cross them in the wrong way. "After a socialist revolution" is so vague as to be meaningless. Yeah, if you establish Utopia tomorrow there will be no borders. Can we get back to talking about the real world?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Again, that’s very optimistic. More likely it’ll devolve into civil war first, with different borders drawn for each little fiefdom. Whether this goes well or horribly, I wouldn’t count on borders staying as they are drawn.

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