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[โ€“] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody is forcing you to use the big nodes. Saying lightning is centralized because of that is like saying bitcoin is centralized because exchanges hold coins.

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you ignore the second part of what I said? ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, because it is even more wrong. One of the most mobile industries in the world that seeks cheap power concentrates where that cheap power is available. China ban bitcoin, miners moved away. Miners can always simply move somewhere else. That already happened and you don't even know it.

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, so you ignored what I said.

China could have seized all mining equipment just by deciding to nationalize the industry instead of banning it, boom, 51%+ of the hashrate in the hands of the Chinese government. What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time? Fuck dick, as long as the price goes up, who cares about the tech behind it?

[โ€“] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

could have

Yes, and the sky could fall on our heads.

It didn't happen, and it can't happen any more.

What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time

They always knew miners are super mobile.

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"It can't happen anymore"

Except they Chinese hashrate went back up even though mining is still illegal... Which begs the question... Did the miners really move out of China or did they simply hide the fact that they're in China?

[โ€“] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So mining is already illegal and law enforcement can't even find them, and you think that's centralization? Hahaha

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You started this whole thread with mining is centralized

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

I never said law enforcement can't find them.