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Tesla (TSLA) has to replace computer in ~4 million cars or compensate their owners (electrek.co)

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Tesla (TSLA) has to replace the ‘self-driving’ computer inside about 4 million vehicles or likely compensate the owners of those vehicles.

The liability could be more significant than the largest automotive recall in terms of cost.

In 2016, Tesla claimed that all its vehicles in production going forward have “all the hardware necessary for full self-driving capability.”

Tesla’s use of the term “full self-driving” has changed over the years, but at the time and for years later, CEO Elon Musk claimed that it would mean Tesla owners would eventually receive a software update that would turn their vehicles into “robotaxis” capable of level-4-5 self-driving, which means unsupervised autonomous driving even with no one in the cars.

Almost 10 years later, this has yet to happen and won’t happen soon in most of the cars Tesla has delivered over the last decade.

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[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Level 5 is easy to understand even for musk, it's a fully autonomous robot that requires no human supervision or intervention yet is capable of navigating every single possible traffic situation. That's what he has been claiming is just a few years away for over a decade.

And as long as he insists that the only sensors a tesla has are cameras, that goal is simply impossible, with cars driving under semi-truck trailers and through walls with pictures of the road painted on it.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Level 5 is easy to understand even for musk

Disagree.

He says "all" and he probably thinks "all", but the meaning of it is always "nearly all". I say, he is unable to grasp that the standard's requirement actually includes all the rare conditions that happen in the real world.

Rain, snow, thunderstorm, earthquake, vomit on the dashboard, no internet...

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

That's exactly it, he knows what it means - all. L5 is easy like that.

He's delusional thinking that he could ever actually achieve that, but that's why L5 is so much simpler of a concept than L4, as with L4 you can argue about semantics and details about what exactly it has to be able to do to qualify. Level 5 has no exceptions, it has to be completely autonomous with zero human interaction required other than telling it where you want to get to. If it can't do it, it isn't L5.