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Instead of actual Linux discussions, every day there's a new "windows bad" circlejerk post.
And every single one will be met with "I spend 80% of my pc time gaming, my games don't run in linux as good as windows, end of discussion".
Also, comparing stuff to windows 11 is quite the low bar, 2 of those points don't apply to win10 and the 5th can be done with powershell and wsl1.0 afaik pretty fast. the 5th can be done in windows by running a python script too, and let's be honest, what is the use case of batch file renaming if it's not for programming? it's not a common issue.
So basically, it's about privacy, bloatware and security. Bloatware can be uninstalled if you are a power user, and let's be honest normal users won't even dream about using linux.
So yeah. I love it for work but it's lacking for my entertainment pc.
I use batch renaming all the time, very little of it for programming. Media management, and general file organization are my most common uses. But there are plenty of third party free programs that let windows do this without the need for running python scripts.
Yep like the semi official powertoys.
I've actually found the opposite, thanks to the lack of all the windows shit on my pc games seem to run smoother. I've had one game not run out of the box so far and I've played a fair few with either my PC or steam deck so far
That said I don't play that many competitive games and I've heard their anticheats often prevent them from running on Linux
I've had two not run over a few years of buying stuff randomly from steam. All I had to do to make them work was figure out how to bypass a stupid "launcher" that exists only to show you ads.
Games with launchers do kinda suck yeah usually there's a workaround though
To make a list: Path of Exile has given me big issues, graphical errors, and weird stuff happening and the game is already demanding enough for emulation inneficiencies to worsen it.
About all of the windows shit on your pc, idk, remove it? You can remove/stop tons of windows services, uninstall all the Microsoft crap, close and disable cortana... You either play indie games that don't require much optimization or semi old games that have had tons of work by the proton team already done. However, love service games are getting constantly updated and improved, for windows, which breaks the emulation efficiencies and need constant maintenance.
I've had issues with Legue of Legends too, and it really sucks when the game closes in the middle of a match.
Voice processing programs like nvidia broadcast have no Linux runtime, and they are a godsend to filter both my shitty microphone and my friends', and no discords shitty filter doesn't work that well at all.
"game ready" drivers where nvidia optimizers the drives so that the new hot games run better, don't exist for Linux.
When you say "all the windows shit", I can't really relate since I just open the process manager if anything is running weird, check the services running it, investigate and stop it. I had to do this once or twice in all the years I've been using Windows, but strange graphical errors happen quite a lot in Linux. Witcher 3 had some really weird things ha penning when I tried it on Linux.
As a reference, I had a ryzen 1700 and a gtx 1080 when I tested most of those games. 16gb of ram and 500GB of ssd, and games obviously on the ssd.
I could go on, but I think that I've already made my point.
The game ready drivers I hadn't considered, that said I've still not had an issue running newer games. Ran diablo 4 flawlessly on high settings on linux with an Nvidia card
Nvidia broadcast is good but Krisp and noisetorch are perfectly good too I think
You're talking about emulation, I'm assuming you mean wine/proton and not just trying to game in a VM. LoL I can understand being a competitive game, I'm kinda confused by path of exile looks like an old single player game
I have exclusively played witcher 3 on my steam deck and it ran flawlessly, maybe it was something to do with your distro/setup?
As for the windows shit sure I could go through every process in task manager disabling things and fighting windows (you can't get rid of cortana without digging deep into your system for example) but Linux comes free of all that crap out of the box and doesn't make me run around removing stuff from my system
(Also, I am the worst for not uninstalling things ever but now I'm on NixOS I basically just remove everything I don't need anymore from the config file and it's gone)
Out of curiosity, when did you last try gaming on Linux and on what distro?
Yeah, ofc I'm talking about wine/proton, proton is wine+ and wine is an emulator whose name translates to Wine Is Not an Emulator, funny. PoE is not an old game at all, and it's quite hardware demanding, the leader of the non casual ARPG market.
Sadly, krisp can't even compare to the level of noise reduction I get from broadcast/rtxvoice, it completely eliminates annoying sounds (dogs barking, fan noise, random high pitched shouts from annoying friends. I can even even rub my beard to the mic while talking and what others hear is just a slight distortion in my voice. I have not tried noisetorch so I don't know, but I would be very surprised if they get the level of reduction that I have from nvidia.
The last time I played with linux was about 3ish years ago. I might install linux on my old SSD when I upgrade my pc and get new drives, just to have dual boot to test stuff without fear of breaking anything (it's nbd to create partitions and to expand a drive and all that stuff, but it feels like working at home), but lutrix and/or proton were already running quite high and mighty when I tried.
There's other stuff too, although this is quite minor, the propietary programs to control the lighting of my keyboard/mouse are not on linux, and those are VERY important (/s).
it's not that I'm viscerally against linux, it's just the reaction i get from the lemmy linux evangelists :sweat_smile:
It's come a ridiculously long way for gaming in the last 3 years thanks to the steam deck's popularity
Depending on your peripherals I believe there are open source alternatives for RGB, pretty sure someone's made an icue one
Path of exile was released in 2013 (10 years ago, sorry to make you feel old lol
Pretty sure wine is more of a translation layer than an emulator hence the name
Sure, as stated (or maybe it was another chain) I'll test stuff when I upgrade the mobo, and with it add new m2 cards for extra space.
About PoE, that's not really a good metric since the game is being updated constantly with extra content and graphical improvements. You wouldn't really say League of Legends is old, right? It's from 2009 though.
About wine... Emulators are command/operation/api translators lol.
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