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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 305 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I support this message. Hope she doesn’t get deported.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 126 points 3 days ago (9 children)

She will 100% but maybe that what need to be so a real revolution start because the peaceful protest don't do shit to stop fascist

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 79 points 3 days ago (25 children)

Too bad people couldn't be bothered to vote last year.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 49 points 3 days ago (27 children)

But the Democrats didn't offer them a pony

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The left:

If we don't give voters what they want, we're gonna end up with fascism.

Fascists:

Take over a country because "moderates" fight the left harder than fascism

"Moderates":

Why dont we just blame the left again?

Do you legitimately not understand what's happening now?

Because it's literally the same way Nazis came to power the first time; "moderates" fighting the left

[–] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Absolutely incredible to acknowledge that voters chose fascism because the alternative wasn't perfect enough, yet still act like they're blameless.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Yes

The voters weren't given a good enough choice to hold their nose for the 4th time in a row...

You're acting like people just chose this election to sit out and havent been disenfranchised for (for the majority of Dem voters) their entire lives.

Because for you personally, things haven't been that bad yet, so you refused to help anyone else because "what are they gonna do, vote Republican?"

Completely ignorant of how voting works and that the result would just be checking out of politics and not voting. Which when enough Americans do, Republicans win elections

You didn't want to help anyone, and now you're mad the people you weren't going to help no matter who won the election didn't help you

As I told someone else, the solution is helping everyone so people will be motivated to vote because they have something to lose.

Like, how the fuck does someone make it to 2025 and realize that people with nothing to lose act like they have nothing to lose?

The "moderate" wing followed the same playbook that got Hitler elected by fighting the left harder than they fight the right...

And are now acting shocked when the same result happened.

So you're mad at everyone that warned you like people in the 1500s burning a woman for being a witch because she said a storm was coming.

Fucking ridiculous mate. But at least you feel self important, that's what matters to some people I guess.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

At this point, I assume anyone still harping on this is a conservative provocative looking to stir up division.

The truth is it's possible for more than one group to be at fault. Those who stayed home have a ton of blame, the centrist dipshits at the DNC have a ton of blame, and the Republicans themselves have the most blame of all.

Quit trying to sew division. We need unity now, not to rehash old grievances.

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[–] FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The Democrats are constantly cutting their own hamstrings by courting the conservatives base rather than their own base. That’s why they always lose. Too many Chuck Schumers, not enough AOCs. The mainstream dems can’t stop suckling the corporate teet long enough to notice they’re getting played.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

When trump was president the first time, we all agreed it was bad and things needed fixed.

A large amount of Dem voters held their nose and voted Biden because he was the only option and even Biden was better than trump....

But instead of fixing anything, Biden just tried to gaslight America that things were fine, and didn't actually fix anything despite having the House and Senate like trump does.

Then Biden held on to the last possible moment so there wouldn't be a primary, tried to hand the nomination to an even more historically unpopular VP who couldn't win, and she said she wouldn't do anything different, except putting a Republican in her cabinet.

So you can blame voters not voting.

But it just sounds like a shady car salesman bitching no one will buy his lemons.

It's the literal and only job for a candidate and their campaign team to win an election. We can't blame primary voters for picking a bad option, they had no say in who the candidate was.

This is bigger than your ego being wrong about what voters will put up with

We can't afford to deny reality so you feel better about your unpopular opinions about what Dem voters want.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (8 children)

It can simultaneously be true that the democrats did a god awful job campaigning, and that people are fucking idiots for not voting for them.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They didn't do a bad job campaigning, they told us exactly who they are, barely left of trump Republicans

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Biden just tried to gaslight America that things were fine, and didn’t actually fix anything

You spell "things were slowly improving from disaster" and "didn't allow america to slide into recession as we emerge from global 100-year pandemic" weird.

I love how this 'gaslight' lie is itself a gaslight. Sorry Stein lost, but she couldn't have won, and wasn't supposed to. She was funded to fool you and others into forgetting it was really a binary choice, and your split votes allowed Republicans to win. Take the win.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Almost all the recovery went to the owner class, and you're fucking blaming the working class for noticing. Quit your bullshit.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Almost all the recovery went to the owner class under Biden, so let's elect Trump and transfer EVERYTHING to the owner class.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We have no idea what a peaceful protest of significant size can do. We've never seen one.

We've seen peaceful protests, sure. And some not-so-peaceful ones. But non-violence is really difficult to manage and wield.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Peaceful Protests have their place. But it's laughable that you really think that a protest with no threat of violence means anything at all to a fascist government

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

They easy I see it, the only point of peaceful protests it to rally opponents of the regime.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Are protests really about "doing" things though?

A rabble or riot might storm a location like on Jan 6, but is that going to topple a government? Maybe in the middle ages where you could depose a king but since then I don't think so.

Civil Unrest, if maintained over weeks and months might achieve something. If the population is ungovernable I imagine that might motivate republicans to impeach but things would have to get real bad.

Other than that a protest is really just a public statement of duress. It's an appeal to all the people who usually dont pay any attention to politics et cetera.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AOC should team up with Blue State governors to campaign solely in their states, with their protection. Trump WILL try to dispose of her, it is only a matter of time. Having a state's National Guard to protect her from Dogey goons will be key to allowing AOC to continue working against the regime.

[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh if AOC is touched by that fucking scumbag will be the moment people riot. If not only the left but potentially some of the right who are fans of her as well, or at least fans of her energy (some have said they dont agree on policy but like how she really stands for working class families). I feel like as much as we cant really touch Trump (he would die a martyr for hard right nationalism) if the other side touches AOC the same thing happens but for the cause on the right side of history.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

General rioting just hurts us... Gotta make sure to do it right at his doorstep.

We can touch trump. He dies, the infighting kills them