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I've been trying out Gentoo, but imma hop to another distro
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Everything just feels way more complicated than it needs to be.
I tried installing Openshot (a video editor) but I couldn't figure out how to fix the error it spits out when I try to emerge it.
I will now try out Arch and hope I don't need a master's degree to install packages.
Edit: Gentoo isn't the first distro I've tried, I've been daily driving Debian for more than a year and just wanted to try it out since I heard good things about it. And also I didn't really need to use Openshot, I just wanted some video editor and arbitrarily chose to install that one.
Also I guess I will just stick with Debian since apparently Arch is also complicated.
Any possible recipe that can have systemd/elogind in it now has it, the problem is that some who don't have it have sources to default to systemd if not otherwise specified. This has forced users by more than 90% to use gentoo's default recipe instead of playing with configurations all day try to compile without it.
In all my years I haven't seen sources to say enable-openrc or sysvinit or runit or s6, it is ONLY systemd/elogind
For ages people used gentoo because it was the safe way around systemd, and gentoo leaders decided to sell them all out to IBM. People use computers for other reasons than be building software all day getting nothing else done. If you are to build a gentoo installation without IBM's trojan you may as well create your own distro, what do you need gentoo for? To alert you of upstream updates? You can do this otherwise without gentoo, and if you are reconfiguring recipes on your own, you might as well.
Those IBM checks must be sweet, even with a "left" mask on!
What are you even talking about? I guess by recipes you mean ebuilds. Only 260 ebuilds use systemd or elogind USE flags. If you look at those, most of those are just providing some systemd special behaviour (loggind straight to journald session tracking, etc.). There are just a few packages that won't work without systemd, but that is not due to some weird conspiracy theory of yours, but just due to almost everyone, especially in professional spaces, using systemd, but those packages are very rare.
If you look at gentoo wiki almost always you will find that openrc is treated at least with same level of detail, often more. If you look at every poll etc. of gentoo users, you will always find that more people use openrc than systemd. You should probably stop accusing everyone else of being malicious and try to actually look into things first.
Sure, because starting your own distro is really easy feat. Not like gentoo tools have years of development behind them and there are hundreds of developers that worked on it.
You are literally starting to act like liberals that cry “CCP bot” / “Russian bot” every time someone says something that disagrees with their world view.
You are not replying to anything I said. It is not important if and why systemd is used (but if you want, we can argue about that too). Your point was that Gentoo was sold out, and it doesn't provide any other option. You still didn't demonstrate that, Gentoo's main selling point is choice, and it most certainly allows you to choose your init system with first class support for both systemd and openrc (and worse support for other init systems). You didn't demonstrate that they sold out, or is just the option of actually being able to use systemd selling out in your books?
Most linux is open source, right, meaning packages of distros are also opensource. You can edit fedora packaging and build modified versions and get fedora to boot and run with runit, or s6, but to say Fedora allows choice is a lie.