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You walk into a shop with a megaphone and start taunting people through it, you deserve what you get, regardless of why you were doing it.
Ah yes the holy and sacred temple of the supermarket. Under no circumstance can there be protest here, especially not protesting mass murder and incarceration, because it might hurt the feefees of the most important and precious class: The Consumer.
You pay people to murder animals so you can feast on their dead flesh. And you're only getting a megaphone warning. Seems like meat eaters deserve even worse.
Ah yes. Don't kill anything with a face. Except meat eaters.
I don't mean that. I'm just saying one should be thankful vegans are friendly and not dangerous.
The person I replied to implied that the vegans that are protesting should get even worse treatment.
And people are celebrating that selfish and evil opinion.
All I implied was if you take a megaphone to a shop and abuse random people, you get what you deserve. You were the one that equated "get what you deserve" to be " get even worse treatment" which I'm going to take as " deserve worse than death" which I may be wrong, but I don't think I am this time.
There are consequences to actions, currently there's a shit load of people who think they can do what they want and not face any consequences, then when consequences come for them, they go online and cry.
they fucked around and then they found out.
Yes and if the roles are switched and those consequences are done upon people because of their selfish desire for dead flesh, you would be ok with that?
If they were standing in supermarket with a megaphone screaming abuse at random people, then yes.
It was the action they did I have an issue with, not the message.
And they have an issue with the actions of others.
Animals are dying because of meat eaters that are fucking around. And now some of them are finding out and still, they get shit on.
Get over it. Just walk away if a megaphone annoys you. It's a protest.
There's no conversation with you lot, I'm done, you win, I'm a massive piece of shit and should just go die in a hole like all the other meat eaters, you happy now? I'm gonna go try and find some joy in my life away from you lot, that's what I get for talking to people I guess.
Cheers.
Ok mate wanker.
Have fun twisting peoples words around.
You're the one promoting violence.
Yep. Don't tell people how to live their lives.
Think I will actually
unless you're telling them to live their life without megaphones
But that lifestyle contributes 15-20% of the entire planets GHG emissions. That lifestyle is selfishly ruining my planet.
Yeah, unless their lives include murdering others.
They lose their right to peace, when what they cause is anything but.
So lamb is made out of people?
Yes. Lambs are in fact thinking, feeling individuals. They feel pain and don't want to die, just like us.
Who are they murdering, sweetie?
Respectfully, I disagree. She deserved to be asked to leave. When she refused, she deserved to be arrested for trespassing and probably harassment, too. That guy deserves some charges as well.
Retail workers aren't paid enough to deal with some self important asshole who thinks that screaming at people through a megaphone is their right.
Protest the horrible meat industry by making their lives hell, don't go after the consumer go after the source ffs, but that would mean actually putting in effort to your cause, which these megaphone blasting people don't want to do.
These people are why us non vegans have an issue with vegans, most of you are chill people enjoying your life, but these pricks make you lot look insane and then you defend them because you agree with their message, but while you defend their message, you also defend their actions!
Start holding these people accountable for making the rest of you look bad, I know most of you vegans are good people, you don't deserve to be made to look like idiots.
That's what the security guard is there for.
If your stores lucky enough to have one, mine doesn't, so we have to deal with this type of shit.
Really? I haven't been to a supermarket without one in years. Perhaps it's a Liverpool thing.
Ohh nah I'm in Aus lol, but we got our own version of this shit.
Its bullshit that we don't have a security guard, but the billion dollar company doesn't want to have its own security, so if the place the shop is in has security you're fine, if not, tough luck bitches.
A security guard in a store? What is this, America?
Liverpool. Contrary to popular belief, there are quite a few thieves about.
Meanwhile, I regularly can't find any employee at the self-checkout for minutes.
It's always great when people who aren't trying to change things explain to us (vegans, environmentalists, feminists etc.) that we do not protest the right way โข and that we don't have the correct targets/methods.
Usually this is a byproduct of people not wanting to be bothered changing anything and pointing the finger towards other actors:
While I agree that only going after end-of-chain customers is unlikely to create at-scale change in the ~~meat~~ rape, torture and murder industry, it still has some effects.
Also these actions are a good way to build a community sentiment for the people included and incrementally go after other types of action.
For example, in the Extinction Rebellion movement, lots of activists started with legal protests, then illegal protests and road blocking and eventually a few of them built up to direct action against carbon-emitting industrial sites.
You also have to understand that the risk level is not the same when you go after customers and when you go after the industries.
They aren't paid enough, period. I only hope that the activists only went after the customers and not the workers (which seems to be the case here, otherwise the article would probably have mentionned it).
See higher. Also, as a general principle, fuck your opinion of what it means to put effort in a cause. Being in a place where most people dislike/hate your cause in a world where other activists have been assaulted and injured by assholes is already a fucking effort.
Nah, be honest at some point.
We vegans are not chill people enjoying out lives, we are decent people trying to function in a dystopian world where the industrial mass murder of hundreds of billions of sentient beings every year is considered normal in the name of culture and/or pleasure.
The root of non-vegan opposition is the same as the root of big-car-lovers and masculinists opposition: acknowledging the truth would be too hard because it would mean acknowledging how much suffering you have caused. And it's not entirely your fault, we've all been raised the same way, made to consider this was normal.
So any movement asking you to reconsider puts your brain in a very uncomfortable position, to which you react with rejection. And because no one wants to look like an asshole, you pick the group you deem most extreme and play the "I have no issue with vegans, but these vegans are a bit much and do a disservice to the cause" card - which is universally used to oppose societal progress whatever the topic.
Once again, thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom about a movement you are not part of. We all were really waiting for your input to decide how to treat our allies.
Edits: spelling
Cheers for proving my point mate.
So I prove your point by expressing my disagreement and providing arguments? Effective tactics, I can't argue with that.
If I made you feel better about yourself and more sure that you're right I missed my target but you're welcome anyway.
Have a nice one.
Nah, by being a dick about it, plenty of ways to express your disagreement and provide arguments without attacking me. But hey, I still stand by my original post that started our interaction, most vegans a good chill people who don't deserve to be made to look bad.
If most of them are than the minority is in fact quite vocal.
See your other comment:
In my opinion you lost the right of not being talked to in a dickish way when you wrote this. If according to you physically assaulting people who try to make the world better is justified, I'm not gonna answer politely and wait the slap on the other cheek.
Cool, I'm gonna go eat some roast pork. Have a cunty day you fucking weirdo.
Thank you for your service, these intelligent emotion-capable animals ain't gonna murder themselves, we need more people like you! ๐
No, by being ridiculous.
Thank you for this argumented and useful answer. Have a nice day.
You are very welcome, always happy to help.
Agreed, in general. As someone who has worked retail, I'd just ask them to leave once and then call the police. There's no need to mediate this situation.
Yeah, if one were really going to support militant action against the meat industry, it should be way higher up the chain where the decision makers and infrastructure are. There are a lot of bigger consequences to doing that, which is why timid people usually just harass consumers.
Also, I'm not a vegan. I don't advocate for harassing people that don't share my ideology, either. I'm just opposed to vigilante "justice."
Yeah I thought you'd pick me up on that phrasing, I was using the more general version of you, talking to vegans as a whole and not the you for you specifically lol.
I think people have just had enough of these loud people and the cops are obviously not doing anything and trespassing these people doesn't work, look at that Aussie chick who keeps getting banned from shops for her horrible style of protesting, but she keeps on going back.
Sometimes these people need to learn the hard way by their own choices and sometimes that comes in the form of a pissed off customer ripping a megaphone out of their hands.
Is it the right thing to do legally? Probably not, but it put a stop to their harrassment of others, they just got upset that they actually had to face some form of consequence for their actions.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be pedantic. I really thought you were stating that I was a vegan who was arbitrarily taking the side of another vegan. I retract that, for whatever that's worth.
I agree that repeat offenders need to see some real consequences. It's not okay to harass other people.
I just feel like learning the hard way needs to be handcuffs, court dates, and then bars. If the government doesn't step up, yeah, citizens will start taking things into their own hands, which comes with a lot of risks, especially when people disagree on what's considered acceptable behavior. It's only a matter of time before more significant violence occurs.
Nah you're all good, I wrote that part weirdly.
We're living in really tough times atm and peoples fuses are a lot shorter than they used to be, I do believe that we're all suffering some mental health issues that came up from the pandemic and the lockdowns that we need to work on as a society, shits gotten worse since then and it's getting hard to keep your cool and remain civil, even I'm having a hard time not overreacting to things.
I honestly would probably have ripped the megaphone from them as well.
Too much insanity is happening all at once.
Nah. If you're shouting at someone through a megaphone, you don't deserve that level of civility.
She deserved to be served with the appropriate charges, given due process, and put in jail/prison for the amount of time prescribed by law as determined by the court. Vigilanteism isn't democracy. I agree she's being antisocial here. So is that guy. It doesn't matter how much worse her behavior is. His was still bad, too. He made the situation worse by escalating and violating laws.
She wasn't hurt. Her megaphone was destroyed. She deserved it.
It's good that no one was hurt. Taking something from someone by force is still robbery, even if it's a thing they're using to harass other people. She committed a crime and should face the penalties prescribed by law. I'm not defending her. I agree she's worse than that guy, but he committed a crime, too. They're not mutually exclusive. It's not a one side versus the other issue. It's not okay to settle violent disputes outside the law. If people are angry that the government isn't doing its job, they should direct their anger that way rather than use it to prop up someone who lost their temper over a previously nonviolent situation.