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Former President Donald Trump's supporters say they hold him as a source of true information over their family, friends, and religious leaders, according to a new CBS News/YouGov poll out on Sunday.

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[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a sister that's the same.

I would have never guessed she'd fall victim to such a thing... she's intelligent and Trump prior to running for election was the type of person she'd despise. I don't know what happened. It's like the person I knew got taken over by a sick, alien virus that's destroyed the person I remember. She's angry, condescending and downright hateful to anyone that tries to talk to her about the lies and real evidence she ignores. It's sad, and I miss the sister I remember.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same with my father. He was a great guy until he jumped on the Trump train. Now he is a hateful, bigoted racist that thinks if you don't think the way he does you aren't worth his time. I learned my thought process from him where you don't blindly follow someone else. Research, research and more research before you commit youself to something. Make sure you are making an informed decision, hell he is a retired cop, he was a detective, he knows how important it is to look at the evidence and make the right decision. But not since Trump, he even started looking up Qanon shit to base his decisions on. I miss who he was, but I won't join his beliefs just to keep him in my life.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your father is still probably following his process, but one of the most dangerous things Trump did was sew distrust of trustworthy sources. If you throw out government agencies, the mainstream media, and what scientists say, then doing extra research ends up coming from rightwing sources and just pushes you further right. And it's a hard thing to defend against because government agencies can and have been dishonest and the mainstream media usually is.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea they have and the media is pushes a narrative that only focuses on the negative side. Back when I was younger the media at least reported some positive news, but now it all sensationalized and antagonistic rhetoric

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The media shows us what we want to see.

They are looking for eyes and for clicks and it's what gets the most of them.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of the reason I look at more than one source for my info. If I see a blurb of something that catches my eye, I’ll read an article then search up other sources of info.

I trust nothing the media says without researching multiple sources. If all the sources are getting their info from the same place, I look for outside means. Like world wide news mentioned her in the states, I will go to local sources for the info. As long as it’s in English language.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't read my previous comment.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I did, sorry was tired and responded incorrectly. I do agree with you though

[–] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure he was a good father to you since you miss his old self, but being a cop in no way implies that he'd be intelligent or competent in any way. In fact, it would provide some of the explanation as to why he'd be joining the cult of an authoritarian figure. Not only are cops often required to not be too intelligent, they also already belong to an authoritarian organization, so it wouldn't be a big change to jump on the Trump train. It's not exactly a coincidence that he has such strong support among law enforcement people.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Again, I know that people can be good fathers regardless of their professional lives, and I don't doubt that he was good to you. I'm not looking to be offensive or attack you, I have nothing at all against you personally. It's just slightly jarring to see someone's status as a former cop being held up as evidence of competence. It is not now, nor has it ever been a good thing to be a cop.

[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

No no offense taken. My dad wasn’t your normal cop. He actually showed empathy as well as sympathy towards situations. He never had that billy badass mentality like most do. Hell even when he went to talk to someone in inherently bad parts of town, like the Watts in LA during the riot era or even like Harlem as the gangs started getting bad, he would leave his firearm in the car. And he stood in solidarity with those that looked at cops like they were the devil themselves. His outlook changed drastically during the trump administration.

He didn’t believe socialism was a bad thing, unless it turned into violent rhetoric. He was always a progressive conservatism. Everyone had the right to voice what they believed in as long as they didn’t push their narrative to being the only right answer.

Now the only narrative he believe in is conspiracy theories, such as engaging with a gay person WILL make you gay or that everything is evil unless it’s the far-right wing way. My father has even gone to the point of denying the innocent until proven guilty, now you are guilty for even thinking that it might be a good idea. The man has changed for the worst, if I didn’t know any better you’d think he had Alzheimer’s and only focuses on the wrongs of people, no matter what, even if they didn’t do anything wrong, unless they believe how he does. It’s actually scary. If you don’t think like him you should be shot on site, that’s not the man that raised me.

I’m actually ashamed to call him my father.

[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Admitting she is wrong about a single fact would bring the entire house of cards tumbling down... Imagine having to admit you are wrong about everything you have come to represent. It would come with soul crushing pain to your ego, and these people can't confront that.