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[–] SeedOnTheWind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What about sortition, aka random selection of representatives?

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Not democracy
  2. People will still find a way to manipulate that
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Easy, have me build the algorithm. I'll make sure that you "randomly" show up in the list that is "randomly" searched :p

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not democracy then, if I understand what you're saying

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is if everyone gets selected from time to time. Selected citizens only participate to one issue at a time, they are not here to stay. It is the best and only non-digital direct-democracy system

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not representation of the people. That’s representation of one individual (or one small group of individuals) in each instance. May be different individuals, but one instance might be dealing with an act of war, the other might be local infrastructure.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The size of the group required for good representation can be calculated, and it's not a lot

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are 331.9 million people in the US. How many people need to be randomly selected for each issue? Okay I did look this up, approx 385 would do, with 5% margin of error. Which actually seems like a lot. Bump that to 97% confidence and it jumps to 1309. Idk seems like a lot of people to randomly select for each issue or even for each short term whatever we deem that to be. Plus then they need to vote, are we just looking for a standard majority?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

This USA have states, maybe we can use that