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Interim EHRC guidance instructs UK orgs to segregate Trans+ people in public single-sex spaces (www.wearequeeraf.com)

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The Equality and Human Rights Commission has published interim guidance following last week's Supreme Court decision. It instructs organisations that manage public spaces and workplaces to create segregated mixed-sex bathrooms, washing and changing facilities for Trans+ people to use.

It does this on the basis that same-sex spaces can only be used by people that align with the Supreme Court's definition of 'biological sex', while also saying that Trans+ perceived to be of the wrong gender can't use bathrooms that match their biological sex.

If taken beyond interim guidance and made statutory, it would be the biggest human rights disaster since racial segregation and apartheid.

The guidance covers workplaces, schools, and services open to the public, such as hospitals, shops and restaurants.

It stipulates that, where possible, mixed-sex toilets, washing and changing facilities should now be provided. In an interim period, it sets out where this is not possible, trans people should not be put in a position where there are no facilities for them to use.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If taken beyond interim guidance and made statutory, it would be the biggest human rights disaster since racial segregation and apartheid.

What?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

When black people couldn't use the same bathrooms as white folk. Here, Trans women including those post op for 20 - 30 years are not allowed to use the women's bathroom and have to use the men's. Likewise, a trans man, born woman, that has been a man for decades has to use the women's bathroom.

Wasn't sure it needed to be spelt out, but needs to be to understand how ridiculous all this is (because of a court case in Scotland about women's representation on boards). Shocking how many rights got trashed with that and how many transhobic politicians got excited.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's like comparing apples and oranges.

Trans women including those post op for 20 - 30 years are not allowed to use the women's bathroom and have to use the men's.

According to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, you have to be born as a woman in order to be a woman.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

According to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, you have to be born as a woman in order to be a woman.

This isn't accurate, the SC ruled that the only consistent definition of woman for the purposes of the 2010 Equalities Act is a 'biological woman'*. A trans woman with a GRC is still legally a woman, she's just not afforded the protections graned to women in the Equalities Act. (This is a crock of shit, but I'll spare you that rant)

* You might wonder how the SC actually defines 'biological woman' and it has nothing to actually do with biology, it's just if you originally had woman marked down on you birth certificate.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago

Ty for the correction!

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A court I'd not heard about until now, for a case funded by a transphobe who writes shitty wizard books.

To go further, I think the judgement is wrong and probably has their own biases shining through.

I think it is hard to see injustice if you do not want to see it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's your opinion in which I respect, but comparing such a thing to apartheid is a bit of a stretch, and I'd strongly recommend against such a thing.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Trans people are slowly having their rights eroded and you’re arguing about the definition of genocide, from that instance.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

They have the same rights as everybody else

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 15 minutes ago

If you don’t see this as taking away of trans rights and a reduction of social acceptance, you’re part of the problem.