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TranscriptA threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the case of the US, yes. The US started out as 13 independent countries. It was only the Articles of Confederation and later the Constitution that defined the US as a country. Disband the US constitution tomorrow, and the US becomes 50 independent countries.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In the case of the US, yes.

Even then, not really.

We celebrate July 4, 1776, the creation of our national identity independent from England, not June 21, 1788, when our constitution took effect.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

But July 4th is called "Independence Day", because it's the day we got our independence from England. The articles of confederation weren't signed until November 15, 1777, July 4th, 1776 was just the declaration of Independence

The US didn't get widely accepted as a country until a good few years later (within 5-10 years though depending on who you ask)

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

Yes, that's already what I'm saying. The United States celebrates its Independence Day, not any day that has anything to do with the creation of the Constitution that forms our basis of government.