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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

But what leader would do better for the party? PP had initially focused on being anti-Trudeau because his party's policies weren't going to win. Then, his party got fucked by being associated with Trump and PP tried to keep Trump out of the election.

PP got beat, but he played his political hand relatively well.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

My personal belief is that the reason Trudeau resigned is because the Liberal Party got a political consultant to determine what would get the party to a win, and determined that the party needed a more traditional business focused leader to get the win, and that they needed to pick someone with a good image overall. I think where the conservatives failed is picking a pretty faceless generic conservative who is not very accessible and does the old Harper trick of two questions only, and doesn't even seem to like anything or anybody in Canada very much, and there was no love in particular for the leader, just the Fuck Trudeau crowd banging their endless gong. I think the trouble they have as a party is that none of their members in particular have an appealing personality that connects with people at all, or reflects traditional Canadian values or make anything in the country better, they just gripe about what the Liberals do and try to block it. I do not think many people connect with the empty suits that their party consists of, just angry, stupid or old people who want things to go back in time vote for them, or greedy rich people hoarding wealth.

Unless they get a personable candidate and stay away from social issues like abortion, LGBT issues and the golden calf of health care, they'll never go anywhere. A tide of ignorance is not going to sway undecided voters, and I think if Canadians have their values threatened we retreat to the safety of the Liberals. I don't think they have anyone like that in their party at all who could lead, and I don't think they're savvy enough to attract someone like that.

[–] driving_crooner 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

his party got fucked by being associated with Trump

They fucked themselves by associating with Trump and America's conservadorism.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but what else did they have?

[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 22 hours ago

I think it doesn't matter because it's never policies that win their game but bullshit. They will have something else,absolutely mundane and replaceable next time.

[–] metaldwarf@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I'll do it. I'm a straight white married man. Business owner with a finance background. I'm also very left wing. I'm the perfect Manchurian candidate.