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    well, today i (partially) realized why my basic drivers don't work: the preinstalled packages amdgpu and amdgpu-dkms seem to not work due to amdgpu-dkms being unconfigured. tried configuring it and got the same error. around about there my system stopped using even the iGPU and i had to uninstall some other drivers (thanks @lena@gregtech.eu )

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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

    sudo pacman -Sy mesa vulkan-radeon (or smth like that)

    Edit: Yeah, I know, Syu. I very rarely not do Syu. But /usr/bin/brain segfaulted while trying to be smart.

    [–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    -Sy is recommended against. -S or -Syu, but not -Sy

    [–] sudoleah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Can I ask why? I’m newer to Arch and I legit don’t know.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago

    -S means sync, or to install/update a package
    y means to update the local package db, so which packages are available and especially which version is newest
    u means update the packages themselves

    So -Sy would just get which newest packages are available, and then install eg. mesa version 6.9. However, mesa version 6.9 may depend on ligmalib 3.2. However, because you didn't specify -u, ligmalib 3.1 is not updated to 3.2. And then you have a partial update.

    Arch's package system basically relies on all packages in all single points in time being compatible with each other. So if you look at the db now, all packages should have the correct versions of dependencies available. But if you mix different states, eg. update a few packages at 2:00 and some others at 17:00, that's not given anymore

    [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

    Same question for me. I’ve never heard this.

    [–] mittorn@masturbated.one 2 points 3 days ago

    @sudoleah @myersguy this will refresh db without updating system and install package. If new package depends on newer libraries than other installed packages, it will break dependencies for installed packages. That might be easily solved with local solib dependency tracking (like gentoo preserved-libs database), but arch does not have it.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

    Yeah, only thought that halfway through lol

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