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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree. 15 years is hardly "life" in prison, though. I think it's more than fair.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People change. They get better. The guy who shot Reagan got better, and they let him out. Now he writes love songs and posts them on YouTube, and sells his paintings on eBay.

[–] melonlord@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy who shot Reagan was already better. /S

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Better if he'd hit the goddamn range once or twice...

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

15 years seems like a perfectly adequate amount of time for that.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree that there should be time served, and a significant amount of it. I'm okay with 15 years. This person needs to be set aside from society while we determine if we can help them and, if we can, to do it.

I'd like to know how we arrived at 15 years, though. Would 10 not be enough? If the court had suggested 20 I don't think either of us would have said "But surely it can be done in 15." It feels right but it looks kinda arbitrary and that's interesting to me.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh it's completely arbitrary. The only way I can think of making it non arbitrary would be a very long study to see how long was necessary for people to genuinely rehabilitate, but even then, it would be based on their own arbitrary sentences.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does "15 years to life" mean anything? Or is it just "15 years"?

[–] MajorJimmy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Means there's a chance they get out on parole at 15 years. So they may end up with a life sentence if not approved, but regardless, she is serving 15 years.

On one hand, yes.

On the other hand, 17+15 is 32. Think of all of the things you do to get your life started between 17 and 32 and where you'd be if you'd waited to do the stuff you did at 17 until you were 32. That's a whole lot of life and life experience there.

Such a stupid senseless waste all around.