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So you'd rather those who are changing their minds because they are feeling the pain driven back to supporting this shit?
What does a path out of this look like to you, considering about 1/3 of the US voted for this (or seems plausible that that amount voted for it)?
Those upset that they are being hurt when it was supposed to be everyone else. Are no ally. Saying it was wrong to seek harm to others is very different than saying "I wasn't supposed to be hurt". They can be useful, but they don't have remorse.
you have a systemic problem… idk what the path out is, but if you simply forgive people who changed their mind only because they got directly hurt by this shit they aren’t going to vote differently next time: they’ll follow the next fascist who might not be quite as incompetent
1 man isn’t the problem; the entire GOP enabled this shit.. you think ron dessantis would have been better? you’ve got an entire administration actively enabling this and the entire GOP refusing to act against clear violations of the constitution and law
this
is
WAY
bigger
than the next 4 years
Being combatitive with them, deserved or not, will result in them being combatitive right back. Being gracious when they admit they aren't on the right track might mean they'll be more open to listening next time around. And, more importantly, it might mean being able to solve this current issue.
You're right that it's bigger than the next 4 years. But it's bigger than the GOP, too. It's the latest iteration of a conflict that's been going on probably since before recorded history: some people want to control and rule everyone else, some are OK with it (or even support it), some want to prevent those people from gaining control and seek that power to keep it out of their hands (and in many cases end up becoming what they wanted to avoid), and others just want to be left alone to do their own thing (which might not hurt anyone or might make life worse for anyone around them). I don't see any end to this struggle, the only thing that changes is who has power right now and how hot is the conflict.