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Police said a suspect was in custody after the shooting near the Capital Jewish Museum

A suspect is in custody after shooting dead two Israeli embassy staff outside a Jewish museum in Washington on Wednesday night.

The gunman, named by police as Elias Rodriguez, 30, of Chicago, approached a group of four people leaving an event at the Capital Jewish Museum and opened fire, killing Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.

Metropolitan police chief Pamela Smith said the shooter had been pacing outside the museum, which is steps away from the FBI’s field office, before the shooting.

After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't think you get to decide what the scope of the context is.

For this not to be contextual you would have to claim that the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians had nothing to do with the gunman's motive. I think that would be hard to claim considering that the murders were politically motivated, considering that the two victims were diplomats.

I think people have gotten a little too comfortable with claiming anything that shares a sentence structure with a logical fallacy to be a logical fallacy. You have to remember that logical fallacies have to be illogical in the first place. It's not illogical to assume these two claims are associated.

Whataboutism have to equivocate two different scenarios that aren't logically associated with the events in the originating claim.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's illogical to compare them from a moral perspective. You don't get to just shoot people because they have a different perspective than you, because they were raised differently or get their news from different places than you do. It's not exactly whataboutism though, it's more of a false equivalence. Whatever the case, the gunman is not morally justified in murdering these two people. If you think he is, then you are blinded by ideology and shouldn't be allowed to participate in democratic society.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

It's illogical to compare them from a moral perspective.

The only person doing that is you.... Everyone else is trying to point out that the two events are logically connected.

You don't get to just shoot people because they have a different perspective than you, because they were raised differently or get their news from different places than you do.

Lol, I don't think his motivations were centered around where people get their news. There is a genocide happening in Palestine, it's not really a matter of perspective or debate. Violence begets violence, no one is claiming that's a good thing, it's just inescapable blowback.

It's not exactly whataboutism though, it's more of a false equivalence.

No one is equivocating the two. People are just acknowledging that political violence against those who represent a state is to be expected when a state conducts a genocide.

you think he is, then you are blinded by ideology and shouldn't be allowed to participate in democratic society.

Lol, I've started my statement claiming I didn't think people deserved to be murdered. You keep trying to connect my statements to moral grandstanding because you don't have any other kind of rebuttal.