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Anon can't go on a field trip (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 39 points 5 days ago (3 children)

To be fair (while much of the writing is definitely shitty) they wanted to keep him in the school non-stop at this point because the people out to get him were becoming more prevalent and his enemies more powerful. So the intention to keep him safe.

But she probably could have directly said that. Most of the problems in the book could have been solved or entirely avoided if Harry would have listened to what he was told by Dumbledore and others

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago

IIRC McGonagall does say something similar in the book. The movie just leaves it out. Harry asks if she could sign it, and she says something along the lines that she can't, because she's not his guardian, and she also wouldn't anyway because she doesn't think he should leave the grounds.

Honestly, it goes with the poor writing that she says it too. She really hammers in the point that he's supposed to be scared of Black, because she doesn't trust the reader to remember it for the twist I guess.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If Harry wasn't a self entitled prick there would be no books.

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

Lmao truly though. I read these books again when I was much older and was just consistently pissed off at him lol. I know he was a kid but holy hell lol. He got a lot of people unnecessarily killed even

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's 13 and all of his friends were going on a fun field trip. Wanting to find a way to go sounds pretty normal

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

That's not what all the books are about.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

That's really not true. Here are counter examples in each book:

  1. The stone was safe with his help, and Quirrel probably would've gotten it eventually w/ Voldemort's help
  2. The school would've been closed and Voldemort would've returned as Tom Riddle's memory
  3. Buckbeak would've died, and that's about it
  4. You win this one; Harry would've lost if he didn't cheat and Barty would've needed another plan
  5. Not sure if there's a way to get Harry's prophecy without him, so maybe you win this too?
  6. He basically does what Dumbledore wants the whole time

The real issue is that the adults all suck. Surely an adult could design challenges a few first years couldn't crack, or figure out where the entry to the chamber of secrets is. If Harry followed their rules, things could've been much worse because the adults are largely incompetent.