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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should take you no time at all to source your claim, then.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, would you like russian state media or a 3rd party?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you get a reply? I'm also curious.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is now a reply. I don't want to shock you, so make sure you're sitting down: in no way does the source support the view that Russia sought:

The return of Ukraine in its entirety to the russian nation for one.

Here is the quote, to save you scrolling up:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220308032650/http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67903 Parts to note:

“I would like to emphasise once again that our men and officers are fighting in Ukraine for Russia, for a peaceful life for the citizens of Donbass, and for the denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine, so that no anti-Russia, which the West has been creating for years right on our border, can threaten us, including with nuclear weapons, as has recently become the case.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

A lying liberal, what a shock

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry I replied to the wrong comment, my bad.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220308032650/http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67903 Parts to note:

“I would like to emphasise once again that our men and officers are fighting in Ukraine for Russia, for a peaceful life for the citizens of Donbass, and for the denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine, so that no anti-Russia, which the West has been creating for years right on our border, can threaten us, including with nuclear weapons, as has recently become the case.”

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The return of Ukraine in its entirety to the russian nation for one.

That's what you claimed as one of Russia's war goals. You can see the excerpt you quoted isn't anything like that, right?

I'm not even trying to do some sick own or anything. You do see the difference between the stated aims and the propaganda circulating about "Russia wants to conquer the whole of Ukraine," don't you?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

Why bother lying if you're going to debunk your own lie?