Incel is just a pejorative that makes them get even more blackpilled. Use "emotionally unstable" or even "constitutionally weak", because if they knew the real issue, they'd be more predisposed to actually fixing themselves so that they can also get laid.

Also, legalize sex work. Just get them laid. Watch the alt right and fascism crash harder than a drunk driver speeding at night.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sex ain't gonna fix 'em.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Therapy will though, which is why framing and semantics are important.

Then again, I'm a humanist. I humanize.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

but it will make them less celabete

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But it won't make them better people.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't use humanity as a measuring stick for goodness. Our greatest achievements are more proof to the contrary.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Pretty fucked up to think that sex workers should be subjected to a bunch of misogynists.

There’s a disconnect with capitalism and culture. Getting laid isn’t going to fix that.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sex workers can choose their clients, if they want to take a misogynists money, what the fuck business is it of yours?

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

See… you’re pretty much aggressively agreeing with me and that’s fucking ridiculous, but also clown shit.

In this thread a bunch of people are suggesting that sex workers would/ should take on clients that have a higher than average probability of hurting them… failing to acknowledge the fact that sex workers may or may not take on a particular client.

The overall sentiment behind the comments like that is putting an obligation on to sex workers, “fuck this guy and save the world.”

Sex workers can say, “no” to a potential client just as well as they can say “yes.”

There’s also several places that already have legal sex workers; yet here we are with this problem.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Maybe sex workers should also keep a gun in a drawer, or better yet hire a bodyguard

A few dead abusive johns will go a long way to cleaning up the scene

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also, why do we assume that them having sex with a sex worker will magically fix the serious mental issues they're facing? Will they suddenly become likeable dudes that women want to be with after that sex worker experience? I'm pretty sure Elon has had sex with a few sex workers. Let's ask him...

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

100% agreed. Who’s to say they don’t punch a sex worker in the face and determine that they enjoy the experience?

But at the end of the day, the burden falls onto the sex workers right? Voters and informed citizens shouldn’t have any input…

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sex work should be subject to protections under the law, including the law, the courts and the healthcare system - rather than subject to persecution, ostracization and having to fend for themselves outside of the law. They'd rather want sex motels decked with panic buttons and security on guard.

Think before you assume you're actually concerned for someone's well being, and if you think continued illegality will somehow eradicate sex work - let me remind you that it hasn't worked thus far. Please reconsider your stance.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Again, just because a bunch of assholes on lemmy think that sex workers should bear the burden of fixing the worlds’ incles; doesn’t mean I need to agree with that idea.

If they want to take that task upon themselves; that’s their call. If they don’t want to take that task on, that’s also their call.

You’re going on about the legality of sex work.. different discussion.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No, it was a side argument regarding mental health. Fixing mental health is an everybody issue, especially when people are products of their environment. Having a healthy sex life is part and parcel of improving mental health, on top of exercise, a good diet and actually handling or leaving toxic environments.

You're not able to see my main point because you want people to suffer, because you think they deserve to suffer, because you want to feel superior and calling me an asshole indirectly at the same time because you're too much of a pussy to tell me directly.

So the only asshole I see here is you.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fixing mental health is an everybody issue

No, it's really not. People with mental health issues have absolutely no fucking business trying to fix some other person's mental health issues. It's NOT your place to tell individuals what they should or should not be doing. It's NOT your place to tell people how to live their lives.

You’re not able to see my main point because you want people to suffer,

What in the hell is wrong with you? You're the one who wants to force sex workers into fucking incels "to benefit society."

because you think they deserve to suffer,

LMFAO - show me where that is in anything I've said... I'll be waiting.

because you want to feel superior and calling me an asshole indirectly

If it makes you happier to call you an asshole directly - fine, you're an asshole and I think you're dumber than dog shit too.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Tt;dr

Seek therapy instead of trying to get it out of Lemmy comments.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

'don't call me incel or I'll meme even harder'

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

They'll remind isolated with weakened impulse control because of ignoring their mental health - which is the problem I was eluding to.

But hey, your cathardic Schadenfreude is all that matters. I wonder what that says about you.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You joke, but this is what actually goes through their heads.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what goes through their heads. Been making a damn near academic study of them since stormfront took over 4chan