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Ladies: please help me understand. (lazysoci.al)
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It's literally the most natural thing in the world to equate reproductive effectiveness to worth. All life is "worth" their reproductive effectiveness. So not having sex is very relevant to our entire existence as a species.

As such, our mental faculties put a heavy punishment in the form of mental pain, i.e. "self-worth attached to getting laid", on this whole thing.

This has very little to do with societal expectations. It's simple biology. Not getting laid is supposed to be one of the worst things for an organism.

You're rationally right with what you say, but it's simply not very relevant. Rationality does not help with our most deeply rooted biological desires. The only thing that helps is getting them fulfilled, i.e. having sex."

From the Blackpill incel thread

I can't tell I'm just too ace to comprehend this. Is this a thing? Do women feel this? I argued it's more of a "societal expectation" thing and was countered with.. this.

Not saying this user is wrong, I just am having a difficult time understanding this.

"Our most deeply rooted biological desires" has me squinting real hard. Do women feel this way, too? Idk I'm absolutely confused af

EDIT: Please do NOT brigade the blackpill thread. No touch. Seriously.

Realization achieved: it's not an incel discussion thread: it's now an incel defense thread. What a fuckin' waste ffs..

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Others have pointed out that what this person has said is both incredibly reductive and based upon false premises. I would like to point out that this person had very likely already made up their mind about it. They are simply working backwards to justify these conclusions.

An artificial construct is assumed to be both inevitable and immutable, and the person's unwillingness to look outside of these preconceptions makes it so in their mind. It is deadlock state rendering further argument ineffective. The only resolution I've found is for them to grow as a person, and that is neither fast nor forcable.