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So you've Motte-and-Baillied your way from "gliders were used to attack small villages" to "gliders were used in attacks on civilian targets" to "a para-glider was referenced in this article". Maybe you should work on your own critical thinking skills before pulling out this insults.
You know what is actually a bad faith logical fallacy? Blanket declaring that your opponent is wrong and not arguing in good faith because they apparently had "so many logical fallacies" in their comments (without actually bothering to identify any of them). Specifically Proof by Assertion, Fallacy Fallacy, and Ad-hominem. I know reddit liberals like yourself have been trained to employ the phrase "logical fallacy" like some kind of magical incantation that lets you declare yourself correct without having to actually address anyone who disagrees with you, but you actually do still have to substantiate the point.
If you actually think that I'm not arguing in good faith, you would simply stop replying, and maybe report me. The fact that you are not doing that suggests that you don't actually believe that and are using the accusation vexatiously.
Begging the question fallacy: the whole discussion is about if it's true; you can't just declare it to be true.
As someone who has repeatedly talked about "reading critically" you should probably know that it's not a matter of blanket trusting any whole agency, you should read closely enough to: 1. Determine the article's biases, and 2. Determine where the claims of of fact are actually coming from. You should definitely be hesitant to trust an article from a source that has a history of fierce pro-genocide support, is getting all of the claims of fact directly from IDF stormtroopers, and engages in some of the most obscenely blatant editorializing in what is ostensibly supposed to be a news article that I have ever seen.
Sure, I'll bite. Here are some of the logical fallacies you've committed in this thread.
1. Ad Hominem
Definition: Rejecting a claim by attacking the person making it rather than addressing the claim itself.
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Formal Logic:
This sidesteps the actual argument about the article’s credibility by attacking me personally. It doesn’t address whether the article is actually accurate or balanced.
2. Genetic Fallacy
Definition: Dismissing a claim based solely on its source rather than its content.
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Formal Logic:
You reject the article’s factual content entirely because it’s from the BBC, without evaluating the specific claims being made.
3. Motte and Bailey
Definition: Defending a controversial position (bailey) by retreating to a safer, more defensible one (motte) when challenged.
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Formal Logic:
It's a little ironic you accuse me of doing a Motte-and-Bailey while actually performing one yourself - shifting from the broader factual claim to whether the article uses specific phrasing. But hey, we all do it sometimes!
4. Fallacy Fallacy
Definition: Assuming that because someone made a flawed argument, their conclusion must be false.
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Formal Logic:
Even if my argument has flaws, that alone doesn’t disprove the underlying claim (e.g., that paragliders attacked civilians).
5. Begging the Question
Definition: Assuming the conclusion within the premise - circular reasoning.
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Formal Logic:
You point out this fallacy in me - but then do the same thing by assuming the opposite is true without disproving it.
6. Poisoning the Well
Definition: Discrediting someone in advance so that their argument won’t be taken seriously.
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Formal Logic:
This frames me as inherently untrustworthy because of the sources I read, regardless of the content of my arguments.
edit: fixing formatting
Wrong, that is not the argument I made: strawman fallacy.
Again, not the argument I made: strawman fallacy
Third time: not the argument made, strawman fallacy.
lol ok. So now you care about fallacy fallacy? hypocrite.
Not remotely the argument made, not even close: massive fucking strawman, again.
For the fifth fucking time: not the argument: strawman
Seems like literally all you can do is strawman.
Incorrect, that is not the formal logic form of my claim: strawman.
Factually incorrect, as you presented a logical form that was neither my exact words, nor an accurate form of my claim: lying.
Incorrect. Strawman
Not the formal logic form of my claim: Strawman
False: lying.
Claims "exact quote", then adds in things that weren't said: lying.
Incorrect, not what an ad-hominem is.
Not what I claimed: strawman.
Those are are your words: LYING.
False: strawman.
False: strawman
False: strawman
False, you are not using my own words, you are using inaccurate formalizations of my claims that are strawmen: lying.
DAMN SON, You REALLY love strawmen. Seems to be all you have! Peak fucking reddit shitlib to learn all these formal logic terms from Wikipedia but never learn how to actually apply any of them or indeed how to read.