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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, and it actively tries to censor and erase the fact that it ran down its own citizens with tanks.

Are you saying that China doesn't censor or try to hide this? Can I just go to Tienanmen square and start talking to locals about what happened there and they'll openly talk about how awful it was?

[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think happened at Tienanmen Square? Because you might want to figure that out before you start grinning like a moron while asking a Chinese person about "how awful what happened at Tienanmen Square was".

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand what you're trying to get at here. Are you suggesting there was no massacre?

[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not at Tienanmen Square. Confirmed by western reporters at the scene along with contemporary US diplomatic cables later leaked by Wikileaks. Western media is really attached to that image of the guy in front of a tank, so everyone just pretends it was the site of a mass murder. Really odd.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is. The only evidence of a massacre of protestors in Tienanmen Square presented in that article is Wu'erkaixi's claim that he saw 200 people shot, but he had actually left the protests hours before the final protestors left, and literally everyone else present (including western journalists) says that the last protestors left peacefully.

Edit: Here's an overview from the former Beijing bureau chief of The Washington Post, who was in Beijing covering the protests in 1989.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

You could read the article.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

Still waiting to hear where you got that "people run down by tanks" thing.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While we're on the subject of propaganda: what was it that made you believe China "ran down its own citizens with tanks"? What is the actual source of this belief.

[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I saw a picture of a man in front of a tank, and we all know how evil chinese people are, so it's not hard to figure out what happened."

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's my assumption, yes.