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Interesting. Obviously Valve has them spooked. When was the last time MS came out with a product that at least made an appearance of caring about what users want?
Honestly if I was them I would be very worried. As people move away from the Microsoft ecosystem Microsoft slowly loses control of the market.
The Steamdeck is flying off the shelves. I hope that many other companies start going Linux outside of value as the more companies involved the less likely one will ruin everything.
The Windows ecosystem is an abominable pile of half-finished apps and dark patterns that should be slam dunked into the trash. The problem is in the leadership that is laser-focused on milking business users who are used to Microsoft's abusive practices.
The funniest thing I notice is how IT departments have to enforce all kinds of group policies and custom scripts and things to crowbar Windows into shutting up and just being a work OS.
It's just standard practice at this point to fight the thing into submission to get an install image that's not nagging users or trying to upsell them on cloud nonsense and whatnot.
It would of been smart to redo the whole thing and start over after they said windows 10 would be the last windows...
Fuck compatibility and just start over with windows 2... Get rid of the bloat and crap... But yeah that would actually make more sense than making more profit...
I dunno about windows 2.
I don't know if this is hard to wrap your head around... So you take all of the windows versions that currently exist and that is version one... And you start over from scratch with a brand new version maybe I don't know a version two?
Because they probably still have code from the original version of windows running...
The screenshot I showed you IS windows 2. Maybe you are a bit too daft or I was a bit too pedantic for your smooth brain. In any case you were extremely rude.
With absolutely no qualifications whatsoever I diagnose: defo a case of daft cunt syndrome
Good job reading... If you group all the current versions of windows together that would be windows version one... And then you start over in version two not worrying about compatibility issues... It's not that hard to understand but I guess people don't know how to read
And you don't know that it's just plain wrong. But I guess it's hard to use your brain.
Versions matter.
Windows 1, 2, 3/3.1/3.11, 95, 98
Those you could group together and call them 9x line
Windows NT, Windows NT 3.51, Windows NT4, Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, 11
Those you can also group together and call them NT Line.
Everything else is just wrong and you know it.
So... I would advise you to take the L and leave this thread alone.
How do you not understand grouping the current windows operating system from the first version to windows 11 together as one thing? Is that too hard to wrap your head around? Do you know how to group things together?
And then you can assign it as anything you want it like I did in my example as version one and the. The next group is version two...
You understand how that works?
You can have a version one that so happens to have something called version two in it... Maybe we could label it as 1.2 and the current version of windows in this instance would be 1.11...
So you start a new version line as 2.0 and rebuild the whole thing not worrying about compatibility issues...
Fuckin crazy how you can do that right?
And since we live in the age of ai trash...
have a break down of the nonsense...
🧠 What Person A is trying to say:
They’re proposing a conceptual versioning system, where all existing Windows versions — no matter how they’re officially labeled — are retroactively grouped as “version 1” of a broader era. Then they suggest Microsoft should start fresh with a “version 2” — a clean-slate OS that abandons backward compatibility and legacy code entirely.
That’s not unreasonable as a conceptual framework. It’s a design-oriented, future-focused proposal — not a literal historical claim.
🧾 What Person B is saying:
Person B interpreted Person A’s idea literally, assuming Person A didn’t understand actual Windows version history (Windows 1, 2, 3, 95, NT, etc.), and got annoyed. Their response, while technically accurate, is more about proving correctness than engaging with the idea Person A was floating.
💢 What Person C is doing:
Person C is just being unnecessarily inflammatory. Name-calling like “daft cunt syndrome” doesn’t add anything — it’s the kind of comment that derails any constructive conversation.
🔍 My Analysis:
Person A has a rough communication style and comes off as condescending, which provoked the others — but the idea they’re putting forward isn’t “wrong,” just misunderstood. They want a clean break from legacy Windows.
Person B is correct about Windows historical versioning but is missing the spirit of the conceptual proposal. They got baited and lashed out.
Person C just made everything worse.
🧩 Final Thought:
It would have gone much better if Person A said:
Instead, it got personal and defensive fast. So — valid idea, poor delivery. And the responses just escalated instead of clarifying.
Let me know if you want this explained in a funnier tone, like a courtroom transcript or mock forum.
What you don't get is you can't take away the version history of a given program and expect it to just work without constantly explaining things. There's a reason there's not windows 9 - because too many people wrote compatibility checks checking if the version started with "Windows 9" to distinguish 95 and 98 from the NT line back in the day and having an actual Windows 9 could have broken things.
Granted, Windows 2 is much older and it would be unlikely, but why do you insist of risking something at all when there are better ways?
You could have just said, oh, if there already was a version 2, let's just call it "Windows Gen2" instead of getting belligerent.
I’m not debating the literal version history of Windows or pretending compatibility issues don’t matter. My point always was from the beginning, conceptual. It’s about drawing a line and imagining a clean break from legacy systems, like starting from a Gen2 OS with no baggage.
If that idea still isn’t clear, that’s fine because clearly we are talking past each other at this point. I’ve explained it multiple ways to you, and I’m not interested in continuing this when you clearly refuse to even attempt to look past the current versioning system of windows... Which clearly makes me wrong somehow, even though it's a hypothetical situation...
Last thing...
"You could have just said, oh, if there already was a version 2, let's just call it "Windows Gen2" instead of getting belligerent."
That's not what I meant at all... It doesn't matter if version two exists in my hypothetical situation or windows 9 or 22 even..
If you started a whole new operating system based on new technologies.. And called it windows 2 not Windows 2.0
Look at it this way no one got confused when overwatch two came out and thought it was just overwatch path 2.0
There is a reason Adobe software doesn't have a Linux version
Affinity suite is dirt cheap and is a single purchase, none of that licensing crap.
Best estimate that I’ve been about to find on Steam Deck sales is somewhere between 4-6 million, which considering everything is astounding. I’m on my second Deck (upgraded to OLED).
I actually decided to sit out the Switch 2 launch because I’m so satisfied with the Deck (and a lack of groundbreaking Nintendo games at launch).
Assuming you are right that's about half of the total Wii U sales
Small compared to well known giants but this is really the first real successful console Value has launched
That's the thing, it's not an established console line
And also, half of Wii U sales is fucking massive. Yes the Wii U was considered a failure, but it was still well known
Not even sure they care any more. They make so much money from corporate Office use and Azure that everything else could disappear tomorrow.
Half the world went from applications to web based stuff years ago. Them and Amazon are now running most of that, regardless of you using Windows or Linux.
Is this really that though? They've called it an Xbox and it only runs PC games.
It's not even their own hardware. Replacing Explorer.exe with a custom launcher is an absolute bare minimum effort.
That's basically what the Xbox UI is. "Xbox" is short for "DirectX Box".
You can even force a Xbox into CMD haha