Privacy

38798 readers

334 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

privacy smartphones US (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 days ago by praxis_jack@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

14 comments fedilink hide all child comments

I've been interested in switching over to a phone that isn't a gold mine of my data for random companies etc. I've seen stuff for calyx, fair phone, graphene, and Linux phones. I'm curious as to how I would go about switching over. As of right now I use Android and mostly message through signal unless it's for work and I'm unfortunately on Verizon. Which privacy first smartphones would people recommend for US users and how does it work putting it on a network? Do they go on the regular networks like at&t, sprint, Verizon etc? Or do they have their own or privacy first networks? Sorry if these are dumb questions I'm just interested in switching and figured this would be a good place to find info.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My first instinct is to recommend a recent Pixel with GrapheneOS:

Make sure to buy a factory-unlocked model so that it's not locked down to the stock OS. Preferably also gently-used second-hand so no money goes directly to Google.
Of the options, GrapheneOS gives you the most compatibility, security, and updates.
Installing GrapheneOS can be intimidating at first, but it's pretty hard to mess up if you install through a Chromium-based browser.

I've also used CalyxOS and it's a solid option that supports a few models outside of Pixels. But if you end up needing Google Play Services, you'll be stuck with its replacement microG, while GrapheneOS offers sandboxed full-fat Google Play Services. While still secure, it's not the hardline security of GrapheneOS.

I have no experience with FairPhone or Linux phones. Fairphones' main attractions are the easily replaceable battery and microSD slot. Linux phones are still too cumbersome for the regular user to daily drive.

In the US, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile have an oligopoly over the cellular infrastructure. All of the other carriers (MVNO) just piggyback off the infrastructure of the big three. Traditional voice calls and SMS ("green bubble") texts are unencrypted and logged, no matter the carrier. Carriers can also perform cell tower triangulation and track the IMEI, which is permanently associated with your phone, surviving even an OS reinstall.

One way you may try to avoid handing over identification at activation or payment for cell service is to buy a 1-year prepaid SIM with a prepaid gift card to a trusted friend's or otherwise shared mailbox. Or buy a prepaid SIM at a brick-and-mortar store with cash and top off with refill cards thereafter.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

When using the web installer, I recommend scrolling down to the bottom and clicking the download button before starting.

Spent like 30 minutes with my phone just sitting there in the bootloader waiting for it to download.