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Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Monday removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines and pledged to replace them with his own picks.

The 17-member Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices had been in a state of flux since Kennedy took over. Its first meeting this year had been delayed when the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services abruptly postponed its February meeting.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I hope some people are starting a project 2029 document that outlines all the bonkers people that immediately needs to be shit canned and rehired (if they’re even still available) when Trump is out.

[–] psyc@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s actually really frustrating that a plan of similar scope to undo all the damage and fortify our democracy hasn’t been released or at least hinted. It’s clear a huge portion of what were thought to be core components of how our government functions and maintains a balance of power were vulnerable to hostile actors and we need to patch these holes and harden our institutions against future attacks. Democrats need a project 2029 designed to protect against future project 2025 style attempts, assuming they get the chance

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm waiting for the first candidate to pledge to:

  • Aggressively indict, prosecute, and imprison the MAGA Nazis for their CRIMES (not their politics).

  • Criminalize MAGA as a seditious, terrorist, organized crime hate group, and prohibit it's existence.

  • Review every elected official, and if they encouraged the Big Lie or the Insurrection in any way, they will be prohibited from holding office under the 14th Amendment, Section 3. Any future candidates who are found to have supported MAGA will also be prohibited from being on the ballot.

  • Give our Democracy a full rehab, including expanding the Supreme Court, impeaching Clarence Thomas for corruption, ending Gerrymandering, ending the Electoral College, etc.

  • Re-start the government, and start supervising the state governments of shithole states, starting with Medicare 4 All, Federal control of ALL elections, Federal control of public education, free or low-cost college or vocational tuition at any point in life, cancellation of all college loans, AGGRESSIVE taxation of Sociopathic Oligarchs and Transnational Corporations, Universal Basic Income, Controls and taxation of AI and Robotics that replace human workers, a tax on every stock transaction, etc.

Given time, we could all come up with a lot more.

[–] GFGJewbacca@midwest.social 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would hope we can go even further and rewrite the US constitution. Our constitution feels like a 200+ year old jalopy that's loosely held together by corpses, cash and a prayer. So many governments in other countries rewrite their constitutions regularly to reflect the changing needs of their people. I know the likelihood is low, but a man can dream.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah good luck with that... Are you suggesting we use the already established method of a Constitutional Convention to decide this new Constitution? If not, then how will the text of it be decided and by whom? If so, then how to you suggest we come to a consensus among all 50 states that will get them all to sign? If not, then how do we determine which states are a part of this new union, just the ones that happen to have non-Republican leadership at the time will able to be a part of it?

Even passing an amendment to the Constitution these days would be impossible, and if we did end up with an entirely new constitution, I'm concerned it would be even worse than what we have now due to the influence of corporations and just the general conservative idiocy of the people here..

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago

Resulting proportionality would fix all of that, and guarantee that a minority party like the GOP never gets total power. But, that's a bit of a pipe dream.

That is a two edged sword though. You could have a trump admin and right wing states amending it.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IF the Dems can take America back, and purge MAGA and the traitors from the government, we will have a short window that revisiting the Constitution will be possible, without having to worry about traitors having a say in it. Several of my suggestions would require Constitutional approval that doesn't exist yet.

On the other hand, some of my proposals, like actually enforcing 14A/S3 are already in the Constitution, the Dems just need to play Hard Ball and deploy it. It's there for a reason, and MAGA is the reason.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is hard to change it and requires 3/4 of the states to vote for it. With the states divided hard along red/blue lines I don't see it happening.

The United States Constitution can be amended through a two-step process outlined in Article V. First, an amendment must be proposed either by Congress (with a two-thirds vote in both houses) or by a convention called by Congress upon the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Second, the proposed amendment must be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures or by state conventions.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right, but that's in the current environment. If you go back to my original comment a couple of levels up, I advocated for forcing out a large number of elected officials, under 14A/S3, which would give the Dems a short window of strong dominance where they could enact a very bold agenda that would put America, and the World, on a new path.

But we have to win this fight first, and we are behind on the scoreboard. Fortune favors the bold, and Dems, and patriotic Indies are going to have to go on aggressive offense in order to stand any chance of winning.

Fortune favors the bold, and Dems, and patriotic Indies are going to have to go on aggressive offense in order to stand any chance of winning.

Definitely. There is no point to playing it safe at this point. Go full Bernie.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Gonna need a couple life times to see how all that plays out, but at least your on the right side of history.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I want an investigation into corruption. Illegal contracts, Trump's family and friends insider trading, etc, etc.

I don't think we'll see real change unless we amend the constitution. Right now the process is very difficult which is good and bad.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I've been thinking about something my college physics professor said. "The universe gravitates towards chaos and destruction. That's why it takes orders of magnitude longer to create something useful than it is to destroy that same thing. It's the story of all life everywhere."

Project 2025 is dangerous not for the immediate effects but its long term effects. It will take years if not decades to restore faith in our vaccine board. Years to restore our faith in any sort of government action. Decades to restore our relationships with our allies.

Bearing in mind that we vote for our representatives every two years and we keep voting for people like Trump.

We are at a cross roads. We will either purge our country of the alt right or we will become the next authoritarian country.

The window to choose which direction is closing fast.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Heritage Foundation is more dangerous than any terrorist group.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"The universe gravitates towards chaos and destruction. That's why it takes orders of magnitude longer to create something useful than it is to destroy that same thing. It's the story of all life everywhere."

Example: It took a billion years to evolve the T Rex, and every single one of them was dead within 5 minutes of the meteor hitting.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Eh, 5 minutes is probably an exaggeration. Some (non avian, some avians made it to now 😉) dinosaur species may have made it into the very very very early Paleocene. T. rex probably did go extinct fast - obligate carnivore, less food, hot blooded, going to starve to death quickly. But it’s not as if the impact instantly killed everything. They might have made it a generation before they starved out.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. The video simulations that I've seen of the big meteor strike all show the entire surface of the planet basically going molten within minutes. Those that survived were generally in the oceans or underground deep enough.

Whichever it is, the point remains - millions of years to evolve, gone in a cosmic flash

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Avian dinosaurs (birds) and mammals survived on the surface. The entire surface of the earth did not turn molten, and there were many species that survived that were not “in the oceans or underground deep enough.”

It’s not that all animals were incinerated in the impact (although some certainly were) - it’s that it triggered volcanism, changes in ocean acidity, gas concentration in the atmosphere and other things that put pressures on most animals food sources.

Certainly a “cosmic flash” time wise, but it’s not the apocalyptic movie scene like at the end of V or beginning of Titan AE etc.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its like how we are in a mass extinction event right now.

Extinction is usually a long and drawn out process. There can be delayed responses to changes in the natural environment that mean that the species is essentially bound to be extinct even thousands of years before it actually goes extinct. Steller’s sea cow is an interesting example. Humans certainly dealt the killing blow, but the species would have been doomed anyway.

This is what is very concerning in our current mass extinction. Ocean acidification is going to wipe out a lot of species. If you make the environment hostile to phytoplankton, you are reducing calories available in the ocean. Certain more harmful algae species might overproliferate in response to the new space to live in. Phytoplankton and different species of sea grass are huge oxygen producers - decreased oxygen production could possibly have long term effects on us.

Ecology is ridiculously complicated, and tugging on one thread in the web of life can cause an entire ecosystem to collapse through a delayed response. Things are rarely instant.

Maximum entropy. Trends towards "heat death"

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA thinks they're going to be doing the purging. They have no idea what's in store for them if they try.

Once the Nazi leadership got what they wanted from the street fighters (SA) and were in power they turned around and killed them off, along with anyone else who was no longer needed but could threaten their power. The MAGA riff-raff would ultimately be seen as a liability, not an asset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Shitcanned? Some of these people need to do hard time in prison. They are getting Americans and other civilians killed due to medical malpractice. Halting medical shipments to poor countries will accelerate various diseases like wildfire, which will spread worldwide due to air travel. Cutting food shipments will make people turn to bushmeat, a known vector for novel diseases that we have zero resistance to.

And disbanding vaccine scientists, health advisories and food/disease monitoring means American children, elderly, and immunocompromised shall die. Even healthy people will have unnecessary days where they are very sick, which will cause the economy to take a completely unnecessary hit. In an era where, let's face it, the economy isn't having many good days anyways.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I hope some people are keeping track of all this, to keep them ALL accountable, and put safeguards in place so that it won't happen again. I also hope there will be something to build on next US election.

If people are ok with authoritarian regimes, let's use that as an opportunity to strong hand transparency and trust into them. I was always against that stance, but the fucking shitfest we're seeing there? Yeah, no more of that. Force laws that prevents unlimited power when you can instead of hoping the next madman will play "fair".

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

Oh my simple friend, a Project 2029 wouldn’t BEGIN to be able undo this damage. Maybe Project 2050?