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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, you're right, but it's because of their demographics and proximity to the situation that I said what I said.

Few NRA members will be in any position to intervene or see the reality first-hand. Meanwhile, Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.

I take it Marines are especially likely to have family or spouses that are here illegally, for some reason?

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Per Congress:

As of February 2024, more than 40,000 foreign nationals were serving in active and reserve components of the Armed Forces. An estimated additional 115,000 foreign nationals residing in the United States are veterans who have previously served on active duty.

Service guarantees citizenship. We've got so many immigrants in the military. Heavy Hispanic representation. Rodriguez and Vasquez are stereotype names for military members and you'll find it in movies all the time.

I do have a general feeling that Marines take more immigrants, especially Hispanic, but I don't have anything to base it on.

It's actually a little more complex than a guarantee, but serving in the US military is a path to expedited citizenship/permanent residency including family.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hispanics - particularly Hispanic men in the military - have long been loyal supporters of the Republican Party and the Trump Presidency. A lot of these guys are from families that fled countries undergoing left-wing insurgencies and joined the US military with an eye towards flipping their home countries back to conservative governance. In particular, you've got a lot of Cuban and Venezuelan ex-pats aligned with the capitalist opposition parties. You've also got a lot of Nicaraguans and Columbians with a family history opposed to the Sandinistas and the FARC rebels. And that's before Marine Training beats anything resembling modern liberalism out of you.

The Trump anti-immigrant attitude puts them in a weird place, since they're nominally aligned with his political attitude but physically exposed to his dragnet against anyone with an unseasonable tan. Also, heaven help you if you're a queer Hispanic with conservative politics.

But go down the rooster of the Jan 6th gang. Check out who some of Trump's most loyal supporters are in the House and Senate, particularly in Gulf states like Florida and Texas. You're going to find a lot of Hispanics. The Marines are a hotbed of reactionary politics and fascist attitudes, second only to the holy roller Christian nationalists in the Air Force.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've had a few ex military drinking buddies, all left leaning, oddly enough. Two of them were white bread suburban boys that figured it out, other was a black feller that just defaulted left.

The fucking chair force sounds miserable with how far they've taken it. My buddy talked about goofy swords and rituals, IIRC.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't say anything about Marines in particular as opposed to any other branch of active duty military, which is the bit I was replying to.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's the info I was able to dig up however. I was suprised that there are many non citizens in the US military.

1 in five are Hispanic(tbh, I did think it was more), but there was a noteworthy case in the news a while back about a spouse flying into Hawaii and getting deported to Australia. On that note, military members serve overseas a lot, and often marry locals, so the ethnicity stats don't tell the whole story.