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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Eh, for certain people they definitely are less productive online(unfortunately including me), but I'm sure some others are more productive online.

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the issue is the one-size-fits-all mentality, it leaves no room for each person to do what works best for them.

My wife's company only rents one of the 4 floors it used to, for those who wanted to return to offices and it's worked out perfectly, they maintain a space for necessary in office meetings, a place for presentations while only paying a fraction of their old lease.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've been work-from-home since the pandemic kicked off, so about 3.5 years now. They're working on renovating our office building (and shrinking the footprint we occupy in it), so we're going to be work-from-home until at least the spring, at which time we'll have to report a max of one time per week. Supposedly a remote work policy is under development as well, which is what I'm hoping for.

I will say, though, I went to an in-person strategy session for a club I'm in back in May. No zoom at all. What I had forgotten was the hallway conversations, the discussions over dinner, and being able to collaborate like that. It was much easier to talk to my counterparts in the club and see how they were addressing issues, for example. I softened my stance on the full work-from-home idea after that - for certain things, like brainstorming, an in-person meeting is hard to beat. But, our day-to-day work, including the quarterly meetings where we pass motions to revise the club bylaws - those can be (and still are) done virtually.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying that a few times per year is enough for in person networking? I agree with that.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I didn't say that.

Maybe once a year!

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why they should give people the option to work from home. You can choose which one is best for you.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I much prefer to work from home, but I am admittedly less productive. That was my point. I choose to work from home given the choice, but would be less productive.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you choose it if you know it makes you less productive?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Because it is much more enjoyable.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The question for me is, is maximizing productivity the most important thing?

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I think you have to have a good work-life balance. If you are only focused on maximizing productivity, you risk burnout. I'm not a manager, but I've certainly seen burnout lots of times.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It depends to who and how you define productivity