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And then Harris completely disappeared as soon as the election was over, failing to challenge his extremely questionable victory in any meaningful way
Billionaires: " yes, she's an obedient little soldier π"
It must be nice to have the billionaire's hot air to fill your sails as you navigate these rough seas. However, woe betide those that displease the mighty donors, they will immediately find themselves in the doldrums, they no longer have a purpose and the billionaires await the next empty vessel.
It must be nice, it must be niice to have billionaires on your side.
It must be nice, it must be niice to have billionaires on your side.
If she had challenged it, she probably wouldn't have won the challenge, AND she would have fueled a whole smattering of "SEE, BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME" bs
Well if people were going to say stuff, it's awesome that she didn't do anything! Close call. \s
This is the same flawed logic as the folks saying that violent resistance will give the other side a "justification", they're gonna make one up anyway so there's absolutely no point in abstaining from any given course of action for the sake of not giving them one. Even if it hadn't worked it would have demonstrated some commitment to actually stopping Trump, but corporate dems don't actually give a shit what happens as long as they're still getting paid.
Fuck that, the situation wasn't the same and EVERYONE knows it. The solution isn't to avoid the whole thing so the accusation isn't made, the solution is to do the right thing, and when the accusation is made, you slap them down HARD!
She was a weak candidate and had very little political capital, it was a wild shot, but she was just a better choice than Biden. The dem party has almost ZERO strong presidential leadership that the general, liberal or progressive population can connect with, and I'm pretty sure it's by design.
AOC might have a chance of rising and gaining prominence but she's still regarded broadly as "too young" to do more than take a senate seat, which would be great either way. Zhoran Mamdani is going to be a titan on the left if he survives the concerted efforts of zionist liberal America to melt his efforts, but if he succeeds he's going to be busy in New York for years to come. David Hogg isn't going to lead the nation, but he IS making worthless old dems literally cry, so there is some marginal hope for a rally by next midterms.
But we also may not have midterms at this point. We're edging closer to martial law and general, fascist, authoritarian dictatorship, and the best we're getting from Dem leadership is "strongly worded letters" from Chuck "Less Than Worthless" Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries likes to reiterate that "Trump has a mandate" and is basically Schumer's little shadow. Cory Booker gained national attention by doing a publicity stunt to literally promote a book. Bernie Sanders is still a voice of power and influence but he's definitely past the window of electability, sadly.
We need better representation and that doesn't spawn from nowhere, we need people on the ground, getting involved in local community, city and county elections so that real people with real passion get national attention. It's not that they don't exist, it's that the left and liberals broadly are sitting on their hands waiting for something to be presented to them.
We have to get out of the "someone will do something" mindset and get out and DO stuff, even if it's just joining the protests right now.
After hearing from walz I kinda wished he was the candidate
I think he would have been a strong candidate a few election cycles ago, but likely not a winner in today's climate. We have a LOT of pent-up rage in our population, as a result of our national "fierce independence" reaching its own "late stage" level.
Waltz has bite and sharpness that would appeal to a lot of people if he were un-muzzled, but he's still not going to fit the "WWE theater" spectacle that engages the stupidest people, and which because of systemic sabotage of our elections, is the only segment of the population who votes anymore.
While I don't like him at all, I think Newsom fits this role the best and might be the strongest contender if we have elections again. (And he will probably be more likely to cheat in some way.)
I suspect we will continue to have elections, but they will strategically select specific races throughout the country to tamper with in favor of the GOP, and they'll increase the number of rigged races with each election until our entire electoral process has been captured and we end up with something akin to Russia or Venezuela. We'll hold elections, but they'll be a complete sham. We'll (officially) be a one-party state with one other party of controlled opposition to give people the illusion of choice.
Instead of AOC (however much I love her and her message) I'm thinking Whitmer would be better and has a great track record. Walz would be stronger than AOC, if they let him hammer 'em with his wit. Andy Beshear would totally freak the GOP out and would be a great choice.
Walz is a zionist. So is Pritzger. A zionist wont win.
We should really stop this.
I like AOC.
I also realize we just elected a rapist felon traitor insurrectionist and declined the last 2 females who ran for president, despite being WAY more qualified than a felon rapist traitor insurrectionist.
This is not the time and not the country to elect a female president, especially one so "green". If we try to push AOC, we're going to lose, again.
This is not how I want things to be. It's simply an observation of this nation and how extremely unlikely it is to elect a woman president. It'll be Bernie all over again, but probably even more of a shutout.
You're like, on the edge of political awareness, but you're kinda stuck on the wallpaper.
Setting aside that I also said she's not the right candidate for the time, I know for a fact that the "woman president will never win" mandate is a manufactured talking point and a lot of otherwise smart people ate that story up because they thought the system was remotely balanced and that democracy wasn't compromised. (as well as latent, bitter, cynical sexism oozing out of the country's pores right now.)
Clinton won the popular vote. It's not the gender of the candidate, it's the energy of the electorate and their ability to sidestep very real corruption in politics by people like Elon Musk controlling AI and search engines, and very real KGB tactics being used on our populace.
Trump's victories have been hacks. They exploited every angle to make it happen. The people who voted him into power are the minority, they don't represent the average voter. Our problem is the "average voter" is staying home, because, and I cannot stress this enough, our society has been compromised, hacked, unfairly influenced. In this current climate we won't see ANYONE the corporate oligarchs don't want to see on the throne. The Democrat party is in on this. There's a reason they're trying to undermine the Dems who don't take the checks like AOC and Zhoran, people who are basically enemies of their own party.
We rebuild this a piece at a time from grassroots, and we need to push the "gender" questions out of public discourse and stop falling for the distraction. Every other nation is electing liberal or left-leaning candidates, men and women alike. This isn't a fair democracy in the USA anymore, we have to get out of this mindset that we "just need our own version of Trump."
We need the popular mandate but we also need a way to get around the artificial bumpers the current oligarchy has set up. If you buy the idea that we need to remove women from the ballot, or we need candidates who are more "moderate" (IE: right leaning) you're falling for the ploy, hook, line and sinker.
Do not blame it on being a woman, statistically they win the same rate as male candidates just run far less often.
It's just being sexist for someone else's sake.
This is not the time to run status quo and low effort candidates but loud and effective ones which we have a shortage of in the DNC.
I'm not. I'm blaming it on the American electorate, which is what I stated in my comment that you didn't read thoroughly.
Not for president they don't, and if you read my comment thoroughly, you'd know that's what I was talking about. Open your eyes bud. It was a woman or a felon rapist traitor who ALREADY FAILED ONCE AS PRESIDENT. We chose the rapist instead of the woman. Welcome to American reality.
And it isn't just that she's a woman. She's a woman AND extremely liberal. That combo simply doesn't work for a lot of the American electorate.
I didn't say status quo. Did you read my comment at all? You can run all sorts of people that aren't status quo and also not a woman. I WANT A WOMAN PRESIDENT. Spoiler alert, it ain't happening anytime soon in America. But if you'd like to ignore reality and lose again...that's your right as a voter. That kind of behavior is why we are where we are.
The American electorate is not who is writing your comments.
You are distinctly ignoring other critiques to focus on gender as the main component. Do not assign your own bias to everyone else. We do not all think as you do and can't be blamed for what you think to be true.
Statistically across the world women win elections at the same rate as men.
Support a female president you want then instead of telling them all that none of them can win because of their gender. It makes you sound like the sexist.
Lol.
Still blaming Harris as a coup unfolds.
So productive.
A challenge would have gone nowhere and given the other side ammunition. Focus on something worth your time.
Still simping for dems while they sit back and watch a fascist coup unfold, you're as spineless as they are and a thousand times stupider. You have no idea whether a legal challenge would have worked or not, at the very least it would have demonstrated any commitment whatsoever to stopping Trump, but Harris doesn't actually give a shit and never did, she just wanted money and power. You should focus on developing some dignity.
Americans voted for it, dipshit. Americans voted the GOP into TOTAL CONTROL. Americans HANDED THE REIGNS to the GOP.
Motherfucker, I vote for the Dems because I did my homework and KNOW they regularly vote in favor of the middle and lower classes, don't threaten rights, and are historically better for our economy. I vote for the Dems because I'm not some dumbfuck like you and I know that we are nowhere near ending the two-party system in America so the INTELLIGENT thing to do is vote Dem to maintain our rights and prevent Republicans from gaining control and doing, oh yeah, exactly what the fuck they're doing now. But you and the word "intelligent" don't exist in the same space together.
You're just whining like a little bitch about Harris while missing the bigger picture. Who the fuck cares if behind the scenes she was some power hungry asshole that just wanted her name in the history books? She was STILL, BY FAR, the more intelligent option. You aren't just voting for the candidate you fucking loser, you're voting for the party and the policies attached to it, which in the Dem's case, is way better than the policy of fucking fascism.
You're just a whiny little bitch. Get the fuck off .ml, that shit is frying what's left of your brain.
As bad as his victory was, it wasn't even vaguely questionable.
Of the people that turned out, more of them voted for Trump, plain and simple, even by the popular vote without having to complain about the electoral college.
The only objective fact that gives an asterisk is he didn't manage to get over 50% of the popular vote, but he still had the most of any candidate.
I've seen the mentions of "inconsistencies" and "Musk manipulated the votes" but a read of them seems about as credible as 2020 election denials.
You're not supposed to question the victory of a presidential election when done in free and democratic elections. Doing anything like that would be horribly anti-democratic.
It would be horrible if Harris had challenged Trump's victory. That would just make her another Causescu/Trump/Mussolini.