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In the end, The Hill lied and Harris was right. (lemmy.world)

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Were there other problems in Clinton and Harris than the gender, then?

If it was misogyny alone was the cause, then why did harris lose across every single demographic of women? She lost across every single voting demographic of general voter except a 1 point gain in college educated white men.

We have polling data, we could dig through it-- and the results must be a statistical understanding of a number of reasons. There wont be a unifying single smoking gun across this many voters and issues. We aren't that uniform of a group of people for that. Although there will be some that are larger than others, like Gaza, consumer prices, wage stagnation, and misogyny.

Dems are failing to honestly analyze why we lost, just like they failed to figure out how we could win. So we're on track to lose again, and comments like the one you made show we arent making much progress-- or that we even have any will to.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

women can be misogynistic too

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Uh... If the misogyny was enough to remove enough votes from them to allow the worse candidate to win, then obviously it was a decisive factor. Being a decisive factor does not equal being the only factor.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, it wasn't the decisive factor. The misogynists wouldn't have voted for Harris either way. The decisive factor was Harris failing to inspire her own base while pandering to the elusive "undecided voter" by propping up Liz Cheney, among other things. Don't get it twisted, Harris lost because she and her team were too incompetent to read the room.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz -3 points 3 days ago

What is this the decisive factor you're talking about? You can have several.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If the misogyny was enough to remove enough votes from them to allow the worse candidate to win, then obviously it was a decisive factor.

Sure, but how do we put actual numbers behind that "if"?