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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is the interior of the column, there was a facade around it. You can tell because the mortar in some places are flat from when it was against the facade.

Was it made properly? Not really for supporting a lot of weight, but it was probably fine depending how that overhang was made.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not even straight, there is nothing fine about this for free standing, nevermind supporting weight.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The blocks don't need to be straight so long as the load is centered and even. The mortar makes it more like a continuous piece than if you had just stacked them with no mortar. Sort of like stacking irregular stones.

To be clear, it isn't the right way, but it can be fine.

I have seen so many shit jobs like this and had to fix them. The trades joke that masons are the biggest alcoholics and we joke that this type of work is a Monday morning, after lunch, or Friday special; because this sort of nonsense with masonry work is so common.

Those 16x4x8 blocks can hold around 2,000 psi. So an overhang like that isn't a big deal. The wood shoring holds like half or a quarter of that.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

A prior owner of my house was a mason. I know this because I get his union stuff (I’ve lived here for 15 years; at this point it’s not my problem).

He installed a huge fireplace and hearth.. on top of 2 layers of old hardwood flooring.. so when I ripped that out, I made the hearth unstable. Yay! It’s also an absolutely massive radiant structure, and everyone is shocked that it’s… designed for a small pellet stove.

It’s both well done, and not well done at all.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

Well one of them is literally stacked without mortar

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

It was probably fine

Jesus Christ

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if it was just decorative with a facade then this is fine.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like this is absolutely not fine. I know the facade would help protect the interior, but if any shear force is applied to the core, that thing is less stable than a fifty-move jenga tower.

If the facade were to rot, let's say, and someone were to lean against it, they might end up having the whole thing collapse on them.

I don't work in construction, but I don't think there's any way that meets modern building codes. If a contractor left something like that for me, I'd be getting it inspected for sure.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

but if any sheer force is applied to the core,

Thank you... Anyone who had the case of the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse drilled into their heads in school recognizes the potential for shear force to fuck this column up.

[–] simulacra_procession@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also this. Basically, TXDOT orders review of the new Corpus Christi bay bridge after a campus bridge built by the contractors failed. Review found the pylon supports insufficient, but they also found the triangle frame connecting the box frames with cables would merc those cables with almost any sheer force. I believe changes were made, have new contractor and project is moving forward as of late last year.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

That's pretty wild that it made it that far before getting caught... The fact that it was caught is a testament to the system working imo.

This is what people mean when they say that regulations are written in blood. Hundreds of people died at the Hyatt Regency.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like all you need to recognize that this is not okay is to not have a traumatic brain injury with a side dish of lazy fuckhead

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but it's pretty clear as to why it's not OK when you understand shear force.