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I've been on the hunt for a Google Keep replacement and the most obvious choice is Quillpad. However it can only sync with Nextcloud and that functionality is somewhat broken. For example, if I create a To Do list in Quillpad, I can of course check the boxes as items are completed. I can do the same in the Nextcloud instance under Tasks. But if I create a To Do list in Nextcloud, you cannot interact with them in Quillpad after it syncs. They're displayed, but you can't do anything with them.

All that said, the other choices were Zoho Notebooks (don't trust them) and Carnet (weirdly slow on my phone) as far as similar apps. Quillpad still seems to be the best. Is there a way to get an app that only syncs with Nextcloud to sync with something else? DavX, Webdav, Caldav, etc? The reason I ask is because I wanted to like Nextcloud, but my admittedly older server (HP Microserver G8) struggles even with the optimized builds and it just has way more features than I need. I have a feeling the answer is no, but thought I'd ask anyway before I continue my hunt.

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[–] dnzm@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Eh, my gen8 is chugging happily along with Nextcloud, Synapse, Jellyfin and friends, docker-mailserver, a GoToSocial instance, Home Assistant in a VM, and so on. I don't know what else is running on your server (and, admittedly, I've added some RAM and stuck in a somewhat beefier Xeon CPU), but it should have no problems running a web app like Nextcloud, especially if you stay away from the more intensive stuff like office apps.

That aside, I've gone through a fair amount of note taking apps, and so far I like Joplin best, too bad it doesn't seem to work out for you. Not sure when you last checked out the Android app, but I do know there's been some changes in the editor it uses recently-ish, it might be worth it to check again.

[–] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, I upgraded my CPU and RAM as well (mentioned in another comment) and even stopped other containers and its still slow.

I tried the Joplin app again yesterday, same thing on the list/Todo view. You can change the editor font but that doesn't help tiny font on the rendered note.

[–] dleewee@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Let's dig into performance a bit. Your gen8 server i believe is using E5-26xx CPUs which is plenty of power for speedy performance in Nextcloud. You mentioned upgrading the CPUs and RAM so should be good to go.

  1. Ensure application files are stored on a SSD. I have seen significantly poor performance in Nextcloud when it's running fully from HDD storage.
  2. Data storage is fine to remap to HDD storage. If running with docker this is as easy as:

volumes: - /HDD_storage/nextcloud/data:/var/www/html

  1. Make sure to run Mariadb/MySQL for the database as opposed to SQLITE.
  2. Ensure REDIS is used and working. This will cache and speed up the UI.

With all of that working correctly, Nextcloud is very performant on my comparable Dell R720.

Edit, I see below you are on a microserver. I think all of the above still applies but I don't have any experience with that hardware. I would still expect it possible to perform well on that device.

[–] dnzm@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

These tips are all solid, and reflect my setup. Database (MariaDB) and PHP files on the SSD, data storage on spinny bois. Don't underestimate the importance of a recent enough version of PHP, OpCache, enabled, and so on.

There's a whole chapter on performance tuning in the manual, and the "Security & setup warnings" part of the administration settings should point out some configuration issues, when it finds them.

My setup might actually take a (smallish) performance hit because I use btrfs for all my filesystems. Just don't get roped into the whole "wsl on Windows" thing, that's just not going to work out, it's a kludge that MS offers to not bleed users to Linux too much, but it's certainly not meant for server workloads.

The hardware should not be the bottleneck at all, the 1265 in OPs machine should not be significantly slower than the 1280 in mine.

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