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Hello all,

So i am in a canundrum. I am going to buy a new car (EV) and of course want to buy something from which the EU benefits. I am considering the Skoda Enyaq and the Cupra Tavascan. Both car brands are part of the VW group, which is a European company. However, I found out that the Cupra is built is Hefei, China, while the Skoda is built in Czechia which is of course in europe. The Cupra is in fact more equipped than the Skoda while also being cheaper. This may of course in part be explained by where they are built. How do you guys feel about this?

Thanks for your insights in advance!

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[โ€“] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As eco friendly as it gets? A vehicle that weighs at least 2 tons, which also want to be decelerated from time to time? Come on man.

[โ€“] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

About as eco friendly as it gets. Very important detail, I never claimed it was best. But the difference to a sedan is negligeable.
I understand it's counterintuitive, but Yes actually!
https://youtu.be/YMLQrEaped8?t=2016

Notice it's more efficient than the Ioniq 5 !!! And also than the BMW i4 which is a sport sedan.

https://youtu.be/EYLQzWnALE4?t=886

This is the older iV80 in the SUV version, slightly less efficient than the newer one, but still doing pretty well.
Obviously it's not the absolute best because of the weight, but it's not nearly as bad as you probably thought.
It's almost identical to the ID3 which is not an SUV.

VW did an amazing job with the MEB platform, and Skoda did an amzing job with the design of the Enyaq, so it's better than the VW ID4.
You could also get some solar panels, and 200 or 225 Wh/km becomes near irrelevant.

Electric cars are notoriously heavy, that's not unique for Enyaq. A Sedan is heavy too. To be significantly more efficient than the Enyaq, you have to go way down in size INCLUDING battery size! Which makes it a much less versatile car.

My Fiat 500 comment wasn't either a joke or sarcasm, that's how far you need to downgrade before it makes a significant difference. For me an electric Fiat 500 would be completely useless. For instance I need to be able to pull a trailer.

[โ€“] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

VW did really get "the car part" right, but man... my colleague bought Skoda and he's more and more frustrated from the app and cars quirky systems. Just today the car refused to turn heating on, not remotely, not even when he was in car. The only option was to reset infotainment to factory settings. But then parking sensors stopped working... You can do bare minimum through the app remotely. Not counting that the app more often does NOT work at all rather than it does. "Car unreachable" etc. even when his phone and car are at the same wifi at home...

[โ€“] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's weird, most comments I've heard it should be very reliable?
But I've only been looking at the Enyaq. Are we talking about the same car?

Edit PS: I think it doesn't have over the air updates, maybe it's a bad (early) version, and he should have an upgrade from the shop?

[โ€“] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He has Octavia PHEV, which should have virtually the same system as early Enyaqs... And it's really PITA, so much so, he's about to sell it and buy Tesla, even though Elon is such a prick.

[โ€“] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

heโ€™s about to sell it and buy Tesla,

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[โ€“] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

which should have virtually the same system as early Enyaqs

No I don't think so, Octavia is not the MEB platform, but probably based on an older software design.
I can see here the Octavia PHEV was never popular, despite the Octavia used to be. but the PHEV sales numbers are extremely low, and apparently was only available for a couple of years. The sales were only 1.6% of the Enyaq!

I've seen many reviews and read fora about Enyaq, and I've never heard about anything like you describe. On the contrary I've often heard it described as very reliable, and for VW group as a whole a huge step up from previous models. The Octavia PHEV is admittedly not previous but contemporary, but maybe the software is different IDK.

According to the Skoda homepage the current Skoda Octavia software version is (O3A4) SW1985, but only ICE is listed, For Enyaq it's ME3.8.
So no I do not think it's the same software, and your friend should probably check if an update is available.