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German car industry calls for reversal of EU 2035 combustion engine ban (www.cleanenergywire.org)
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[–] Melchior@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

That is so out of touch with reality in Germany. Our streets are filled with way too many yet there no American style suburbanization happening. You brought up Darmstadt in your earlier reply - look up Loop5 and it’s struggles. The city center is doing well and the mall is struggling. If your argument had any merit Germany would already be littered with malls and city centers would be dead.

35% of trips in Darmstadt are done with a car, that means 65% are not. Parking is a horrible indicator for that. After all you do not park your tram on the street, after you used it on your way home or place your shoes on the street, after walking home.

Also Germany has a lot of suburbanization happening. It is not quite American style, but it is pretty easy to find parts of cities with nearly exlcusivly single family houses. The street layout is better, they do have some public transport and are denser, but they are nonetheless suburbs. For Darmstadt Wixhausen is a pretty good example of a suburb.

I believe cities need less cars but no cars is not just a weird absolutism, it’s absolute BS. Believe it or not, there are people with other life realities than yours.

That is why I used urban and not city. For Darmstadt for example I would go with Mitte and Bessungen being totally car free. Obviously the federal roads need to be rerouted.