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[–] ConfuzedAZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I get what you're saying. And perhaps if my financial situation was better I could consider the option to offer the houses to the tenants. But as you suspect I will not trade my children's financial security just to be charitable. The rent I charge is 30%-40% below market value. I suspect if you were in my position you wouldn't be so inclined to give away your wealth either.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in your position, when my grandparents died I inherited a house, that people encouraged me to rent out. Instead I sold it and invested the money (specifically into a green energy fund.) As that way I still have my financial security, without being a landlord.

[–] ConfuzedAZ@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I realize you aren't going to agree, but these two situations aren't the same thing.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ConfuzedAZ@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because to start with, I invested and risked my own money a much less bubbled deal estate market with a significant amount of my available capital. You invested someone else's money. I took all the risk, and you want me to give away all the profits from that risk. Even your "green" investments take advantage of workers, buy off shore parts, cost people their jobs. Why don't you donate all your profits to those people. Your entire argument is so steeped in hypocrisy that it's hard to even know if you're not just a troll.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You invested someone else’s money.

No. I invested my own money? Idk where you're getting this idea from?

I took all the risk

I took much more of a risk than you. Real Estate is typically more stable than stocks.

and you want me to give away all the profits from that risk.

If you want to be ethical, yes.

Even your “green” investments take advantage of workers

In the sense that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. But that argument is just whattaboutism.

Why don’t you donate all your profits to those people.

Because investing in those sectors is beneficial to them, it helps those companies raise funds, which benefits both the workers of those companies as well as promotes green energy which benefits all of us. Landlordism detracts value from the market.

Your entire argument is so steeped in hypocrisy that it’s hard to even know if you’re not just a troll.

I guess its easier to say this, so you can dismiss whatever I have to say so you dont have to go through the process of introspecting on your life and your choices to think about if you're actually doing the right thing, and maybe even coming to the conclusion you arent and needing to change your behaviour. That sounds like a lot of effort so its easier to just assume everything you do is right and just and anyone that criticises you is wrong by default. That way you get to keep living your life however you like without worrying about silly little things like morality.

[–] ConfuzedAZ@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is getting old. Regardless you said you inherited a house, fwiw. You live how you want. I live in the way I want. I admit my part in Canada's housing crisis. But I couldn't sell my children's future for moral high ground. You come across as sanctimonious. You speak from an imagined high ground with the assumption that you know what is good for everyone. That's your right. So you do you. Have a good one.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I was just pointing out you could secure a future for your children without being a landlord. But like I said. Its obvious you dont give a shit. So just dont act like you do.