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matrix is cooked (paper.wf)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by vga@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Here's Matrix CEOs answer to this article: https://lobste.rs/c/jekh0n -- according to him the article is absurd amounts of FUD

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How complicated is a federated messenger? Because it feels like matrix is the only one but there's always an issue

[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 hours ago

Matrix is the best option and we should be focusing on improving it instead of restarting from scratch.

They need more resources and better design, but that comes with time. Don't let them sucker you out of money to fuel their consumerist lifestyles.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It feels like there could/should be a good modern chat protocol and voice protocol and you just pick which interface you want to use, much like email currently does, except for chatrooms.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

There is -- jabber and jingle. And for a ver-ry brief few weeks, Google's jabber/jingle worked openly with Facebook's, and everyone could message each other. And then BOTH arbitrarily broke it with some sparkle-junkie resume-bait software 'up'grade and neither worked with anything else after that.

It was glorious.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is: XMPP 🤷

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

modern

But i also feel like xmpp got feature creeped. Not to long ago, basically every messenger spoke its own subset of xmpp, basically.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's not any worse than the differen't feature support levels of different Matrix clients. But especially on Android, XMPP has nice modern clients with all the features you would expect, including a/v calls and reactions/stickers.

The main issue right now are up to date Windows desktop clients, but on Linux desktop there are some good options.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Add voice to IRC. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Good idea. That makes me wonder if voice over IRC is a thing. I feel like there might only be four people who know how to use it, but I bet I would enjoy hanging out with those four people.

Edit: Poe's law applies, apparently: https://github.com/asiekierka/voirc