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The tables on the road were only there for the inauguration day, but bike lane is here to stay.

https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/1596032/article/2025-06-14/lomme-apaise-securise-et-cyclable-le-bourg-renove-prefigure-l-avenue-de

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[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Complete idiot local business owners keep trying to remove the bike lanes in San Diego because “their customers need to parallel park there”. Up to and including a fucking bike repair shop. Even when people have this better way right in front of them they reject it

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago

Yes, idiot business owners.

Why do they believe they are in competition with people? As if having more people in front of their shop (vs. parked cars) is somehow bad?

What they should be worried about is online businesses stealing their market share.

And what better way to offer something more than what online businesses do then by making your brick and mortar shop friendly to people!

[–] JBar2@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In defense of business owners, when their customers are trained from birth to drive everywhere, their customers expect parking. When there is no parking, they lose business

Every major US city receives immense backlash from local businesses when roads/parking are unavailable due to added bike lanes, traffic calming projects that reduce parking, or much-needed major construction projects such as water main or sewer work. This is happening right now in downtown Burlington, VT, for example

https://m.sevendaysvt.com/news/main-street-construction-is-hurting-burlington-businesses-43270506

There's no easy answer in most cases

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm unable to open the link due to being blocked, but do they have the data to prove sales went down?

Every study I've seen shows shops always sell more when they have more foot traffic from pedestrianization and protected bike lanes. Businesses tend to complain initially, but when the cash starts flowing in, they never want it removed afterwards

[–] JBar2@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They're typically small businesses, what reason do they have to lie about business being down?

I'm sure they have the data, and I'm sure if a local government or journalist wanted to, they could look at tax records to see revenue impact

I don't think anyone would argue that such enhancements are a bad thing in the long run if 1) If the enhancements ultimately bring in more shoppers/customers, 2) there is still parking available in the area, and 3) the businesses can survive 6-12 months of reduced revenues

My response was really directed at comments implying that the businesses are essentially whining. There's a very real impact during construction, and certain businesses could be hurt by reduced parking, particularly in the states where the car is king

Lie? Nah, they're just ignorant. They don't check the numbers.